As you might know the British have the best trained Army in the world and they have more experience than the US military,the reason the British Army are taking over is the Americans have approached Iraq with the wrong manner so having the Brit's take over is for the best.The standard British soldier is trained a lot better than the US Marines but to be honest i think there should be Royal Marine Commando's there instead because there is no question to who's gonna win in that situation.

Don't get me wrong i think the US Marines are a highly trained bunch who shouldn't be under estimated

The arrogance of you British guys amazes me.  US Marines are very good, and  you would probably not be able to tell a difference in any ability if the two units had a FTX together.

 

You want Royal Marine Commando's to take over a a entire section of Baghdad? LOL, you have ALOT to learn.

The arrogance of you British guys amazes me. 

Don't get me wrong i think the US Marines are a highly trained bunch who shouldn't be under estimated

1. The only true way to compare forces is for them to fight each other. Whether or not the Black Watch takes on or inflicts more casualties in Falujah or not is a measure of nothing. Situations change change daily.

 

2. In my 20+ years in the Marine Corps, I have had the occasion work with, The Brittish Army, The US Army, The US Army Rangers and the RM Commandos. You know what, I would not care which one came to my aid, they are all pretty damn good.

 

3. In this thread and in others, I have seen some fairly outlandish statements, for example.

" The Marine Bn doesn't compare to a US Army INF BN, you would never see a Marine BN take on an Armored opponant" >> Guess what, it is unlikely that an US Army Light INF BN would either!! Fact is Both, although Differing TOE, have similar punch. And in the event it became necessary, both have contingency plans to augment.

 

The USMC trains very hard, has an intensive pre-deployment training regimine and you know what, so does the US Army, so does the Black Watch so do all the Brittish, Canadian and American Units that I have seen, and that is the primary reason why they work so well together.

 

If any one believes that the US Military does not take heed to doctorine of the Brittish Armed forces or Vice versa they are just wrong.

 

I know the USMC units that I served were all awesome, I know that so are the US Army Units and the Brittish Army units I have seen, it all really boils down to specifics of the mission for each unit.  Comparing Vietnam to Malaysia or either to IRAQ just doesn't hold any more water than the belief that charge of the light brigade was a sensible military operation.

 

It's nice to play wargames, ( my favorite pastime now,) or to debate tatics and strategy, but bottom line is young men risk their all in Iraq each and every day and believe me when I tell you, they are moving mountains, ther are just many mountains more mountains to move. 

 

So on message, how does the quality of the US MARINE compare? I would from personal experience stack them against anyone from anywhere, but then again, I have the same feeling about my US Army Brothers and My Brittish Cousins! Would be one hell of a fight though.:)

 

 

 

"The arrogance of you British guys amazes me.  US Marines are very good, and  you would probably not be able to tell a difference in any ability if the two units had a FTX together. "

 

 

But it doesn't stop arrogant Americans telling us they have the best navy, airforce, special forces and whatever else in the world.

 

The British military is the best in the world.  The US just uses overwhelming numbers and firepower.  As long as you  lot just bomb everything from the air in Iraq and Afghanistan then you are happy.  I'd love to see how it performs if it was the same size as the British military.