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Subject: ACH-47 lets bring it back
stinger    2/29/2008 5:04:39 AM
/CH/MH-47G "SuperChinook": America's Survival Really Does Depend on It Now that the Air-Mech-Strike Study Group owns a CH-47---the last surviving prototype HC-1B aka YCH-47A, restoring "The Ghost Ship" as we call it--has given us some hands-on time to experience its size, physical appearance and functionality of this legendary aircraft type which Frank Piasecki created in the 1950s. See our Ghost Ship fly in the video below! 1959 2007 & Beyond This has generated the following observations and recommendations from simple-to-complex. NEW! Video clips: HOW THE CHINOOK FLIES: THE MIGHTY CHINOOK IN ACTION: More Good News: USAF selects HH-47 Chinook to be its next CSAR chopper Notice HH-47 is GRAY to better blend into sky than the stupid Army dark green Chinooks. HH-47 can air-mech M113 Mini-Gavin to rescue pilots with armored mobility, firepower then drive him back to pick-up into the Chinook! This is similar to how LTC Iceal Hambleton of "BAT-21" fame was rescued: by a M113 Gavin during the Vietnam war. WAHOO! Officials select developer for combat search and rescue replacement vehicle 11/9/2006 - WASHINGTON (AFPN) -- Secretary of the Air Force Michael W. Wynne announced the selection of Boeing Helicopter of Ridley Park, Pa., to provide the new combat search and rescue replacement vehicle, known as CSAR-X. The Nov. 9 announcement comes at the end of a fair and open competition, and thorough evaluation of multiple proposals allowing the Air Force to fulfill its number two acquisition priority. "The Air Force is the only service with forces dedicated to the critical mission of combat search and rescue," said Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. T. Michael Moseley. "We take that mission seriously, and this new CSAR platform will greatly benefit all service members who perform vital work deep in hostile, uncertain or enemy territory." The CSAR-X is a medium-lift helicopter that will replace the Air Force's fleet of HH-60G Pave Hawk helicopters, which are quickly approaching their useful service life limit. The primary mission of the CSAR-X will be to recover downed aircrew members and isolated troops in a combat environment. Rescue forces also may conduct missions such as non-conventional assisted recovery, non-combatant evacuation, civil search and rescue, international aid distribution, emergency medical evacuation, disaster/humanitarian relief, and combat forces insertion/extraction. "The increased capabilities that CSAR-X will provide our joint force commanders and future civil disaster needs is tremendous," said General Moseley. "From Operations in Iraq, to Afghanistan, to civil support during Hurricane Katrina, Air Force rescue forces do amazing things to ensure that others may live." The CSAR-X will be designed to deploy quickly and to operate out of austere locations worldwide. Additionally, the combat search and rescue mission requires the helicopter to operate in the day or night during adverse weather conditions and in a variety of spectrums of warfare to include nuclear, biological and chemical environments. On-board defensive capabilities with armor will permit the CSAR-X to operate and survive in a higher threat environment than current systems. The CSAR-X program office plans to procure 141 of the new helicopters with associated training and logistics support. The Air Force plans to achieve Initial Operational Capability with its first ten new CSAR aircraft by the end of 2012. HH-47 CSAR-X (Combat Search and Rescue) Helicopter Overview Boeing has proposed the advanced HH-47 CSAR-X tandem rotor aircraft as its entry in the U.S. Air Force combat search and rescue aircraft program. Built on a new airframe, the Boeing HH-47 CSAR-X rescue aircraft is equipped with advanced countermeasures and survivability enhancements similar to those utilized in U.S. Army Special Operations MH-47G rotorcraft, known as the Special Operations Chinook, which is currently in production. HH-47 Capabilities An affordable, low-risk, highly capable platform with a proven operational and logistics track record; compliant with key performance parameters and incorporates the advanced functionality to perform demanding CSAR missions Multi-mission capable platform with significant combat experience, at high altitudes, in austere environments and with limited visibility The Air Force CSAR version will be a new build aircraft that meets all Block 0 requirements and will require minimal upgrades to meet Block 10 requirements Key features include a net-ready pit, forward-looking infrared radar, terrain-following-terrain avoidance radar, and in-flig
 
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Herald12345       2/29/2008 1:54:39 PM
Identified source.

Have a nice day.

Herald
 
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stinger       2/29/2008 2:42:12 PM
/CH/MH-47G "SuperChinook": America's Survival Really Does Depend on It

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Now that the Air-Mech-Strike Study Group owns a CH-47---the last surviving prototype HC-1B aka YCH-47A, restoring "The Ghost Ship" as we call it--has given us some hands-on time to experience its size, physical appearance and functionality of this legendary aircraft type which Frank Piasecki created in the 1950s. See our Ghost Ship fly in the video below!

1959

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2007 & Beyond

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This has generated the following observations and recommendations from simple-to-complex.

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NEW! Video clips:

HOW THE CHINOOK FLIES: >>

THE MIGHTY CHINOOK IN ACTION: >>

More Good News: USAF selects HH-47 Chinook to be its next CSAR chopper

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Notice HH-47 is GRAY to better blend into sky than the stupid Army dark green Chinooks. HH-47 can air-mech M113 Mini-Gavin to rescue pilots with armored mobility, firepower then drive him back to pick-up into the Chinook! This is similar to how LTC Iceal Hambleton of "BAT-21" fame was rescued: by a M113 Gavin during the Vietnam war.

WAHOO! >

Officials select developer for combat search and rescue replacement vehicle

11/9/2006 - WASHINGTON (AFPN) -- Secretary of the Air Force Michael W. Wynne announced the selection of Boeing Helicopter of Ridley Park, Pa., to provide the new combat search and rescue replacement vehicle, known as CSAR-X.

The Nov. 9 announcement comes at the end of a fair and open competition, and thorough evaluation of multiple proposals allowing the Air Force to fulfill its number two acquisition priority.

"The Air Force is the only service with forces dedicated to the critical mission of combat search and rescue," said Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. T. Michael Moseley. "We take that mission seriously, and this new CSAR platform will greatly benefit all service members who perform vital work deep in hostile, uncertain or enemy territory."

The CSAR-X is a medium-lift helicopter that will replace the Air Force's fleet of HH-60G Pave Hawk helicopters, which are quickly approaching their useful service life limit.

The primary mission of the CSAR-X will be to recover downed aircrew members and isolated troops in a combat environment. Rescue forces also may conduct missions such as non-conventional assisted recovery, non-combatant evacuation, civil search and rescue, international aid distribution, emergency medical evacuation, disaster/humanitarian relief, and combat forces insertion/extraction.

"The increased capabilities that CSAR-X will provide our joint force commanders and future civil disaster needs is tremendous," said General Moseley. "From Operations in Iraq, to Afghanistan, to civil support during Hurricane Katrina, Air Force rescue forces do amazing things to ensure that others may live."

The CSAR-X will be designed to deploy quickly and to operate out of austere locations worldwide. Additionally, the combat search and rescue mission requires the helicopter to operate in the day or night during adverse weather conditions and in a variety of spectrums of warfare to include nuclear, biological and chemical environments. On-board defensive capabilities with armor will permit the CSAR-X to operate and survive in a higher threat environment than current systems.

The CSAR-X program office plans to procure 141 of the new helicopters with associated training and logistics support. The Air Force plans to achieve Initial Operational Capability with its first ten new CSAR aircraft by the end of 2012.

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Herald12345    Reiterate...........    2/29/2008 2:49:19 PM
Mike Sparks or his clone.

Discredited.

Herald

 
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JFKY       2/29/2008 2:50:52 PM
What is this "Gavin" I kept reading aobut?  Is that the humble and lowly M-113?
 
So Stinger is Mike Sparks?  Or does the Air-Mech Strike crew like verbal abuse too?
 
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stinger       2/29/2008 3:13:13 PM
Im more interested in the ACH-47 I dont care about the Gavin just sharing some info with you guys. hearld take it easy down boy down!!!
 
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JFKY       2/29/2008 3:21:55 PM
After the 'photo's I'm even MORE convinced.....so this "mini-Gavin" we're just going to produce it, right?  I mean it won't take any time or effort we'll just chop on some Gavin's and put-in this hybrid engine and pop on the band tracks...even if no one has a hybrid engine designed for it yet, or if anyone has made any band tracks?
 
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stinger       2/29/2008 4:21:19 PM
get off the mech issue i should of cropped the pictures only!!! i think a reintroduced version of the ACH-47 with GAU19A in the windows just on one side,  maybe how about one on each door one on the ramp and four on one side, then it can do orbit pattern strafe runs in stead of straight runs, or you can go with the original version. kinda like the MH-60 DAP. comments welcome lets see if you guys can come up with a good version. remember lets keep it fun no bashing thanks
 
 
 
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doggtag    Wow. (not)   2/29/2008 11:04:29 PM
Damn, dude.
Did you have to cut'n'paste the whole website?
 
You want to up-arm the Chinooks?
Here:
 
 
Or how about this:
(wonder how easily the GAU-19 could be fitted into a slighlty larger one?)
 
It isn't really then that far away from putting the Apache's M230 cannon mount under there instead, or even that M307 25mm smart grenade launcher.
No reason this Remote Guardian System can't work on platforms other than just the Osprey.
And technically, it could probably be right/left sponson mounted just as easily as inserted into a retractable belly pack, all Airwolf-like (similar to early traversable GAU-2 mounts on the left & right side of UH-1s).
As out-there as Sparks portrayed his ideas on the Air Mech Strike sites, I'm surprised he didn't suggest any Airwolfy-looking helicopter, what with all those fancy retractable weapons hung all over, and super speed to boot!
 
But then again, why bother with Airwolf, when Sikorsky's almost come full-circle back to the AH-56 Cheyenne with their new X-2 Technology Demonstrator
 
Combine that with what we developed in Comanche, and we have a winner.
 
(and see? I did it without pasting up an entire book.) 
 
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