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Subject: Information Warfare: Security vs Security
G. Hendricks    3/15/2002 1:38:44 AM
Did it never occur to the author of this article that no one in their right mind would invest four years and tens of grand in an education with no future earnings potential or career path? How can we find Americans who will train in Comp Sci when a hundred thousand second worlders can be whistled up at any time to replace said Americans six to eight years out of school (when they become more expensive than said second worlders)? If the government wanted actual American born type citizens to do this work, it can simply refuse to ever issue a special visa for an alien expert. The computer industry will then have to suck it up, and start to pay competitive wages for experienced administrators and operators again; at which point the Americans who left the field or who would never now enter it in the first place will appear to take these jobs. My apologies that this isn't really a Peacetime Operations subject; but you don't have an Information Warfare board, and this seemed the closest.
 
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aebrain    RE:Information Warfare: Security vs Security   5/26/2002 11:19:11 PM
May I respectfully differ? The problem is threefold: a) Computer Science / Information Technology is a highly labour-intensive technology. b) Global Communications have made export and import of IT jobs very easy. c) Them coloured folks are just as smart as us whites - and have a much lower cost of living. Want a quick'n'dirty accounting package, written by Sri Lankans at 1/10 of the US rate? No problem. Want a genetic-algtorithm system to grow a heuristic neaural-network for missile defence? Just go to Australia, we're even cheaper than the Sri Lankans (the CMM-5 level ones, anyway). Worse for may USAians is that the "cheap and nasty" product from overseas has often been developed by a firm that's qualified to CMM level 3 or above, ISO-9001, and most importantly, follows the spirit not just the letter. Cheaper, Faster, Better, pick any 3. "Made in Japan" used to be a byword for shoddy, now it's quite different. "Coded in India/Sri Lanka/ New Zealand/ Australia" is going the same way. This isn't always so: the opportunities for miscommunication are immense. But unless a lot of US programmers start to do what they've done in the past - just be plain *better* than anyone else - rather than whinge and whine about cheap competition, they'll go the way of the US auto and Television makers. In the meantime, I'll continue earning $40k per year in Australia, and live better than if I'd earned $200k in the Valley. BTW I've worked on a number of military systems - naval combat systems mainly - in Europe and elsewhere, and some of my code is on ships of the USN right now.
 
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