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The Might Red Army Turned To Dust
SYSOP
10/18/2020 5:36:53 AM
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Hari Sud
10/18/2020 6:50:51 AM
You hate everything Russia does or make but beginning to love substandard everything Chinese. Why? Chinese are your worst nightmare. They copy, they steal and they undermine your power in Asia and now everywhere. They have positioned their armed forces to bomb Guam, which is the only American military base in the Pacific Ocean nearest to China, yet you have a soft corner for them..... why?
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davebarnes
10/18/2020 12:06:07 PM
1. @Hari ?? ????????, ??????? ??????? ?????? 2. You don't need modern tanks to suppress civilians protesting on the streets.
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voland
10/18/2020 4:36:20 PM
Hari Sud, you are welcome to admire Russia, but you are well advised to treat it's abilities realistically. The article is right on the money w.r.t. Russian forces organization, readiness, and effectiveness. I'd say even it is more favorable than I would rate the situation. China is a separate topic.
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Shirrush
10/21/2020 2:27:09 PM
Does this matter? The "shrunk" Russian ground forces are still overwhelmingly superior in numbers and equipment to the sum total of the European NATO members' armies. For very practical political reasons, Turkey with its 3,000+ tank force, is out of the equation until the Greek Calendae. If mighty France and Britain together can align 600 MBT's, I'm a Mason jar and my lid is rubberized! The elephant in the room is artillery. Russia can count on hundreds of MRL's and thousands of tubes while all Zeropean countries have reduced that branch to a token, "maintain the skill set", handful of batteries. Pray for conflict in Europe to be forever averted, because with such a lineup, it is certain to remain conventional for less than ten minutes!
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Shirrush
10/21/2020 2:44:20 PM
@Hari Sud: you seem to ignore the West's profound admiration for the Chinese people and their culture, and also the fact that the Han have an impressive tradition of craftsmanship dating at least 4,000 years. I saw this in the Louvre museum many years ago, it is amazing! Who else actually made strong, durable PLASTIC from frigging TREES 3,000 years ago? Notwithstanding all this, I fully share your wariness of the murderous CCP, of which China clearly needs to get rid of ASAP, and will. Also, rest assured that this Western admiration for Chinese culture is only equaled by our fascination for all things Indian. After all, where did our ancestral "Yavanas" get all their good ideas, uh?
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