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Subject: top 10 tanks in the world!!!
Hong-Xing    8/12/2003 9:07:05 AM
i think it would be this t-90 (rus) m1a2 (usa) t-98 (chi) m1a1 (usa) Challenger 2 (bri) t-95 black hawk (rus) al khalid (chi) merkeva (bra) arjun (ind) t-90||| (chi)
 
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jacques    RE:Jacques   12/7/2003 12:22:13 AM
I like asian in general. They have quite an impressive history and lots of accomplishments. They have lots to be proud about themselves. I don't understand why some of them have an inferiority complex. Claiming chinese, indian, and pakistanese tanks to be superior than the LECLERC is nonsense. Their techonolgy is cheaper but not better. If they want to bolster their armor formations France will be more than happy to do business with them. France weapons systems are the best out there; performance, reliability , supportability, and scaleability. There is no such thing as an unhappy client when it comes to French products.
 
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jacques    InFuSeR    12/7/2003 12:25:40 AM
hahaha very funny, NOT !!! such childish behavior has no place in a serious dicussion, not worth my time
 
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jacques    Heorot    12/7/2003 2:36:54 AM
With a name like Jigoku-Aisatsu he is probably Japanese. Now you have insulted him by calling him Chinese. LOL. Look I apologized already. Don't add gasoline into the fire now :-)
 
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Spectra    RE:top 10 tanks in the world!!!   12/7/2003 7:27:02 PM
The MBT Leclerc is best of the best. With his automatic loader the Leclerc can fire up to 12 shots per minutes at high speed at different targets(high speed too) even when running in cross-country. Thus no other mbt's can achieve that actually.(French engineers are constanly improving the ROF of the automatic loader of the Leclerc) The 120mm L/52 calibre smoothbore gun is very powerfull in parity with Leopard II L/55. Leclerc Vo: 1790 m/s Leopard II Vo: 1800 m/s(Not a big mess) One guy here post that L/55 gun of Leo can achieve 2000 m/s, well i never saw such figure anywhere in the net and books(magazines). Giat continue to work for improving the main gun and also working for a bigger gun. Acceleration: 0 to 32 km/h in less than 6 seconds.(unmatch) Top speed: 80 km/h.(unmatch) Top speed cross-country: >55 km/h.(unmatch) Reverse top speed: 38 km/h Range: 550 km. This tank has a superb design and it's a very compact main battle tank. Thus smaller and slightly lighter, which mean harder are the chance to hit it and with a quicker acceleration and top speed prove further difficulties for the foes. Armour is classified. But believe to be very good and very thick and modular(in fact i believe the French's were the first to develop modular armour), so unless more info's is release on that matter it will be pure speculation for those who are anti-french to argues againsts. As for the electronics and computers well easy the best and most modern main battle tank in the world.(no room for argumentation) Giat -FINDERS- is genius! and is the ultimate tool of victory. See from that data's the Leclerc is unmatch in most domains.
 
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Spectra    RE:top 10 tanks in the world!!!   12/7/2003 7:40:59 PM
Top 10 tanks in the worlds in order are as follow. Leclerc(France) Leopard II(Germany) Challenger II(Great Britain) M1A2(USA) T-95(Russia) T-98(China) T-90(Russia) Merkava(Israel) AMX-40(France) Type 90(Japan)
 
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gf0012-aus    Spectra   12/7/2003 7:58:20 PM
You forget to add that the Leclerc is very photgenic. It has been in a James Bond movie. Surely that qualifies it for the title? After all the other tanks you dismiss (apart from the Leo2) have been in battle. Movies and magazine specifications are the ultimate test of a tanks capability are they not? :)
 
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Couac_Attack    RE:top 10 tanks in the world!!!   12/8/2003 12:06:19 PM
Nice post spectra, i wouldnt have said better :D But you would need to precise that the Leo2 has got a L55 just since the A6. And where have you founded the warheads velocity ?
 
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Couac_Attack    RE:Spectra   12/8/2003 12:29:25 PM
" You forget to add that the Leclerc is very photgenic. It has been in a James Bond movie. Surely that qualifies it for the title? " Which one plz ???? can you give me a link to get a picture plz.
 
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InFuSeR    Spectra your top 10 is 100% false   12/8/2003 1:03:40 PM
1.Leopard II(Germany)/M1A2(USA) 2.Challenger II(Great Britain) 3.Merkava(Israel) 4.Type 90(Japan) 5.ARIETE 6.K1/A1 (SK) 5.T-98(China) 6.T-95(Russia) 7.LECLERC (french) 8.OLIFANT (South Africa)
 
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gf0012-aus    Couac_Attack - Leclerc   12/8/2003 1:57:54 PM
Couac_Attack - It was a recent Pierce Brosnan movie, I think it was filmed in Prague. Brosnan is driving through the city with a staue of pegasus stuck on the turret. Perhaps you should travel to Roanne? There used to be a Leclerc on display sitting on a Famas transporter just outside of the factory.
 
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