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Subject: Russian T90 vs. US M1A2 Abrams
achtpanz    6/14/2004 3:59:14 AM
Russian T90 vs American M1A2 Abrams - Which is better? If these tanks fought in battle, which would suffer more casualties, which one is superior? What are their advantages? Any information would be helpful.
 
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Nichevo    Okay TTFN   4/1/2011 11:34:47 PM
ColdStart, you are apparently an insane person who is off his medications.  You don't think well.  You won't face reality and I can't make you.  If you had any valid arguments to make you would make them so really what you are doing is agreeing with me.  Foully, with the foul language that you yourself said before means that you have weak nerves.
 
There is no point in talking to you and there is no point in your talking to me.  So KTHXBAI.

Others, let him rant and rave.  I will try not to feed this CS anymore.   If anyone feels I should address something he says, please speak up and I will respond to you. 
 
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SantaClaws       4/2/2011 12:31:41 AM
Tactics change with the threat environment. I will admit there is a bit of over confidence in the aviation community in terms of our faith in our counter measure systems.


And yes I can absolutely confirm that about the stinger. I'm a 60 pilot. It's my area of work.



What do you think of IGLA? Do you think Apache pilot would do that flashing knowing someone in an area might have it?

 
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GeorgeSPatton       4/2/2011 5:04:23 AM
...Now, if you wanted to say unpleasant but true things about America to me, you could say:  Hey Nichevo, you are being slowly invaded by immigrants from the south, you are running up great debts for no good reason, you are losing your industries to nations who are willing to work cheap and get dirty,  you surrender your manhood to the whims of radical pressure groups who hate all of your national values, you are at present ruled by a freaking maniac linked to these pressure groups who spends every waking hour trying to destroy your country, you are neglecting your responsibilities in the world order, confusing and frightening your allies while emboldening your enemies and earning their contempt...

Sadly, that is very true...
 
This thread left the fact that Abrams would kill T-90 long ago...
 
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Nichevo       4/2/2011 9:46:05 AM

...Now, if you wanted to say unpleasant but true things about America to me, you could say:  Hey Nichevo, you are being slowly invaded by immigrants from the south, you are running up great debts for no good reason, you are losing your industries to nations who are willing to work cheap and get dirty,  you surrender your manhood to the whims of radical pressure groups who hate all of your national values, you are at present ruled by a freaking maniac linked to these pressure groups who spends every waking hour trying to destroy your country, you are neglecting your responsibilities in the world order, confusing and frightening your allies while emboldening your enemies and earning their contempt...




Sadly, that is very true...
 
And look, you're not wetting the bed over it.  Of course I don't want to take that further here because, of course, it is off topic.  But you see what I'm saying and you're not blaming me.  That's it - that's the phrase I was looking for - he wants to kill the messenger!

This thread left the fact that Abrams would kill T-90 long ago...

It may as well because a certain spoiled brat can't handle the truth.  I think he will ultimately have to be banned because otherwise there will be no truth on any board he visits.  Maybe he will settle down and grow up...I don't know what will make him do so. 


 
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JFKY    BTW, Santa   4/2/2011 4:00:15 PM
the MOS 19K, Tank crewman will come with an identifier, marking them as Stryker qualified....So you know like Tank Crewman ARE in Stryker units...so I guess your "knowledge" of the Stryker unit composition is suspect.  Again, you MAY be a Hawk-Driver, but you don't know as much about the Ground Component as you might think.
 
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SantaClaws       4/2/2011 5:01:44 PM
There is no Styrker identifier idiot. You would be an 11B with a drivers license for a Styrker. Just like you'd if ti was a Humvee.
 
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SantaClaws       4/2/2011 5:03:00 PM
*Just like it'd be if you were driving a Humvee.
 
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SantaClaws       4/2/2011 5:04:59 PM
Again, read this before you reply.
 
h**p://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_MOS_would_you_join_to_drive_the_Stryker_combat_vehicle
 
I grow weary of your idiocy.

 
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SantaClaws       4/2/2011 5:10:31 PM
ht**p://img112.imageshack.us/img112/7568/reservationow2.jpg
 
Read that. What does it say? 19K M1 Abrams Armor Crewman.
 
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JFKY       4/2/2011 5:23:53 PM
The Soldiers who receive this additional training will receive an ASI, or Additional Skill Identifier to their Military Occupation Specialty (MOS). For example, the Tanker?s MOS is 19K. Those Tankers trained on the Stryker will receive the ASI of R4, making their full MOS 19K R4. Those Tankers qualified to operate the M1A2 SEP will have the MOS of 19K K4. These ASI?s make you the a more well-rounded Soldier, capable of accomplishing more varied missions, as well as opening up more of a variety of options of where you can be stationed.
 
 
I don't know Santa but mayhap you should quit whilst ahead, here...and the question is not who DRIVES, the Stryker, but who operates the MAIN GUN of 105mm.
 
You see as a modified m-68 105mm it would require an armour MOS to operate, or rather someone who has completed the armour training, which would be someone with an Armour MOS.  And that leads us to the fact that, INDEED,  a Stryker Battalion or Brigade might well have a MASTER GUNNER.
 
Again, ASSUMING YOU DO SERVE,  please stick to Hawk Driving, because your general knowledge seems deficient.
 
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