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Subject: Russian T90 vs. US M1A2 Abrams
achtpanz    6/14/2004 3:59:14 AM
Russian T90 vs American M1A2 Abrams - Which is better? If these tanks fought in battle, which would suffer more casualties, which one is superior? What are their advantages? Any information would be helpful.
 
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Herald1234       8/5/2007 1:50:56 PM

Both are very tough Tanks , i must say the Kontakt-5 ERA is very good , and the REFLEKS ATGM are very dangerous in any case , the battle would be mostly dependent on the situation and crew , both tanks have a chance to win.

Sensible answer; both tanks are designed to DIFFERENT requirements. The user that gets the most out of his combined arms doctrine gets the MOST out of his tank and wins.

Herald
 
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boris the romanian       8/6/2007 2:48:56 AM
From a technical point of view, T-80U and T-90 are exactly suited to Russian needs. Both are reliable, highly mobile, well protected, and have very good firepower, especially against personnel. Their logisitical requirements are average. Russia has no need to develop tanks to go head to head with the latest M1A1/Leo 2 variants because it is unlikely to get into a conflict with nations fielding those tanks, and if it were to occur the confrontation would go nuclear very quickly.
 
It makes absolute sense to spend the greater part of the R&D budget on strategic systems to ensure credible deterrence against potential aggressors, and this is exactly what Russia is doing.
 
 
 
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5thGuards       8/6/2007 9:13:54 AM
Herold i would defenatly agree with your answer that the tanks are for different roles and suiting their doctirne , but i was refering that they are similar in combat performance , both have a advantage in things , terrain is also a big affect on both.
 
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Rommel       8/8/2007 7:51:54 PM

If you have a platoon of M1A2s moving to contact with a platoon of T-90s, with well trained Russian crews. The M1A2s have a great advantage with their highly superior optics, gun, ammo, communications, armor. If you have a platoon of M1A2s vs. a platoon of T-90s doing stuff like we are in Iraq, the tanks are more equal.
Well if youre facing well trained RUSSIAN crews with RUSSIAN tanks the n youre gonna have a helluva problem because middle eastern armies like the iraq republican dont know how to operate these as well as russians now im not saying the m1a2s would lose im just saying the opposition would be a lot better than what our troops are used to.

 
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Rommel       8/8/2007 7:53:36 PM

And the T90 is smaller and therefore harder to hit...... ;-)

Pucka
Yes but the abrams has a gun stabilizer.

 
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Rommel       8/8/2007 7:55:24 PM

I'll go the T-90. After all, "the Abrams has a 120mm gun, 5mm shorter than the T-90"

:)

The abrams fires more lethal DU rounds compared toT-90 HEAT rounds. and the abrams has faster gun velocity.

 
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boris the romanian       8/9/2007 12:50:16 AM
Well at least we got that out in the open! Thanks for the expert analysis.
 
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kalingrad       11/13/2007 12:54:33 AM


what about the xk2 black panther from s korea??
I'll go the T-90. After all, "the Abrams has a 120mm gun, 5mm shorter than the T-90"

:)


The abrams fires more lethal DU rounds compared toT-90 HEAT rounds. and the abrams has faster gun velocity.




 
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Herald1234       11/13/2007 10:02:20 AM




what about the xk2 black panther from s korea??

I'll go the T-90. After all, "the Abrams has a 120mm gun, 5mm shorter than the T-90"

:)



The abrams fires more lethal DU rounds compared toT-90 HEAT rounds. and the abrams has faster gun velocity.



A mix of German, French and US technology with too much influence from the French Leclerc. It will do okay for Korea and Turkey, but it will only do just okay. There are certainly far better tanks out there; the Leopard for one.


Herald


 
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jts    abrams   12/13/2007 12:42:31 AM
t-90 supporters say that the era makes the t-90 superior, but the u.s. could design superior era and if that fails, steal plans for, or capture soviet era and attach it to abrams, which they would do because a nation with du rounds can easily destroy du armored tanks, as the two du masses react during a high speed colision

usa could fit slat armor to abrams, providing excellent protection against gun launched missiles

because the abrams tank engine is currently governed because it has too much power for the track system, and the suspension is very capable, more armor could be added with a negligible loss in performance, as  6 tons have been added in the form of additional du since the original m1a1b du armor package


 
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