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Subject: What Really Scares The Chinese
SYSOP    2/28/2013 5:54:23 AM
 
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Belisarius1234    Sorry... Scott   3/3/2013 11:33:16 PM
You need help. I did not realize that, so I apologize for picking on you. That wasn't right or fair.
 
Proof?
 
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I did think your comments about MRAPs and liquid nitrogen zonal defenses was 'nutty' as in totally divorced from reality, which is why I suggested physics and chemistry lessons.
 
Also, I did say to you sarcastically that you hear voices in your head, just as a WAG. Apparently I am right?
 
Man that is shocking to make a guess like that, and now based on reading your last incoherent writing, your outright fantasizing and just plain nutty ideas, and be proved more than vaguely accurate in guessing how your mind works. (It was supposed to be a joke; but seriously, get professional help, man. You are utterly crazy.)   
 
I wasted a month with another delusional functional illiterate, who could not reason, measure, or think. I'm not going to waste my time debating his twin brother who is apparently more delusional than he was.
 
P.s. I HAVE contributed, Scott. MOST of my life.
 
 That is why I can afford to be this charitable and gentle with you. I've dealt with nuts like you.
 
B.
 
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WarNerd       3/4/2013 2:26:11 AM
Its talking about all there wars and there deaths ,and the drop off of death in Different wars, and the rest. And why this time in Iraq it was much better. Afghanistan as well. You do know that the strategy's from Iraq said to build a big MRAP & build a v shape hull to stop the supper hot copper IEDs, and if not use liquid nitrogen to cool the super hot copper before it hits the top layer of armour. 2 or 3 different layers of armour, first 1 armour, second 1 layers of liquid nitrogen, 3rd more armour, to stop it as is cools down instantly. 
Do u remember the losses before the new strategy's???? massive and the civilians losses beyond massive.
Liquid nitrogen armor never existed, except maybe in the dreams of some kids on the net with no background in chemistry or engineering. To keep liquid nitrogen liquid requires expensive insulation and a huge refrigeration plant to keep it from evaporating. You might be able to fit it into an MRAP if you deleted the passengers. But even if you could build it, it couldn’t cool the hot copper, there just isn’t enough time or nitrogen in the path of the jet, the best it could do is function as a form of NERA by blowing the cover plate off.
 
MRAPs used steel armor, and are for protection from IED specifically. The V shaped hull doesn’t help against shaped charges or explosively formed penetrators (the sources of your hot copper). EFPs in particular are aimed at the sides, not the bottom, because of minimum standoff distance requirements. MRAPs are for protection from IED specifically. They are more vulnerable to RPGs and explosively formed penetrators than the Bradley or Striker.
 
MRAP designs under development may incorporating spaced armor, ceramics, and aramid fiber mats, plus ERA or NERA blocks when desirable, but they will still be less well protected, except against IEDs, than IFVs and tanks, because of design restrictions.
 
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Belisarius1234       3/4/2013 8:44:47 AM
As I said, the ravings of a sick incoherent mind.
 
No further reply needed for this.
 
B.
yea yea yea lmao say hallo to ya mate Reatctive.

You have not done shit to what i have. And yes i bet you work with nuts fits right up your alley.

And i do no a bit about physics 

Hang on you know everything. Can diamonds reflect Xray??? maybe you could build your own space ship. I know lots and even talk to people that are involved in Icarus interstellar like Adam Crowl.

Trust me you Ant shit and i have done way more then you can even dream of.

Stop replying with you rubbish u nut.

Shit cunt.

 
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Reactive    ^^ Agreed   3/4/2013 9:14:42 AM
Completely delusional, at velocities of >3000 M/S an EFP will spend tens of thousandths of a second passing the nitrogen barrier during which no notable thermal transfer will take place. Even at KEP speeds of 1000M/s the effect is absolutely negligible, the pressure waves and instant N vaporisation from barrier transit will mean that virtually none of the nitrogen ever comes into contact with the projectile it's supposed to defeat. 
 
The below video shows the effect when poured on human skin - see a flaw in your idea yet genius?
 
 
 
  
 
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Gerry       3/4/2013 1:41:37 PM



Any war with NK would come from South Korea's side more then likely.








I believe it would take upto 16 hours to take out all of there artillery canons, so south Korea would need to put up $2 billion dollars worth of cheap SK made blimps.








There main city can be hit hard, so there for putting blimps up everywhere, would see a big drop off in deaths on civilians.  $2 billion dollars worth would stop most of  NK artillery rounds from flatting Seoul.








If they can fire nuclear missiles, all defence missiles must  be set to only intercept  incoming objects by speed. As them missile that can Carrie a nuclear bombs, have a different speed to the rest of there missiles. Radar would be able to pin point what missile it is. So detect a real threat  or what is not. Let all artillery rounds past and even missiles that will hit blimps cluttered in the sky. STOP all missiles that can Carrie a nuclear bomb. Missile shield set to only target a real threat.

I doubt North Koreas atillery firing at Seoul would take 16 hours to destroy. North Korea has a limited number of Arty that can reach Seoul, and there is only one point in the border that they can be placed in order to reach Seoul. I strongly suspect these caves have been heavily targeted for years, by any number of artillery that only need to fire short range.  Perhaps 1-2 hours and the arty would either be destroyed or the crews would be trapped in their caves unable to roll the cannons out. Not sure if South Korea has precision artillery shells but if they do the time would be even shorter.

 
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MadMatt       3/4/2013 2:59:33 PM
This article does not take Air Superiority into account. Since 1944 no nation with whom we have fought has ever been able to fly an aircraft against American ground troops. I'm thinking this probably matters.
 
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Belisarius1234    Sad...    3/4/2013 8:24:12 PM
 little man. Don't you realized you destroyed yourself?
 
Have you no self respect at all?
 
B.
Shut up u shit cunt

u will never do anything close in you life time.

 
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Gerry       3/4/2013 9:48:56 PM

16 hours is what the U.S gov said to the media years ago. Like u said they pop out of caves then go back in. The U.S said it would take up to 16 hours to destroy them all. i think because they have to see them all first and could not within 2 hours, then what if the weather is shocking, they can not spot them as fast.

I was thinking they had mass artillery cannons.
I think most if not all of the artillery positions within reach of Seoul , (especially those that are hard fixed such as caves) have been identified over the years. I have seen photo recon of many of the sites on the net along with lengthy analysis of each one. It is in South Koreas best interest to know where each one is and how to best counter each one. Any General who didn't would be derilict in his duties. I doubt if weather would be a problem as long as the coordinates for counter battery fire are known in advance.
North Korea does have large quantities of artillery, and many are massed on the border, but its the range of only the biggest cannons and only those places that cannon can be placed that bring Seoul within reach. Look at the borders and you will see there is only one area capable of hitting Seoul 20-25 killometers away.

 
 
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Belisarius1234    You have no self-respect...    3/4/2013 10:21:26 PM
liar.
 
For I can add that banal fault to your list of moral failings, s well as boasting and ignorance.
 
The ravings of a complete psychotic are of no further interest to me.
 
B.




what are you talking about.

Ps i don't care what you think of me clearly, yuppie.

That's 1 thing, i know some of the things have worked. what u done lmao jack shit.

You ever saved 10 of thousands of live's? NO. shit cunt

Self respect. only if i get it without rude replies.
 
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Gerry       3/4/2013 11:40:04 PM

O ok.

I was thinking they can move them once they fire. like they are on tracks and can move to a new spot, & that they are well Camourflage.

Never really read up much about NK, Was thinking most of them artillery canons could hit SK Seoul. Only really looked up there missiles, to see if there was a speed difference with the nuclear carrying missiles, so we could detect a nuclear missiles by its speed from take off, to its speed km up in the air, or by size "if they can". Only 1 of there missiles can carry a nuclear warhead and it does have a different speed from the rest of there rockets / missiles. Just target there missiles that have nuclear missiles on them. 
Again, huge difference between underground nuclear blasts and developing a crude  nuclear weapon and then making it small enough to fit in a missle warhead. Tremendous developement is required to make a nuclear warhead small enough to fit in a missle. While precision milling and placement of explosives are required to set off an atom bomb, they must be reduced 100 times more to fit in a missle. That is about as difficult as making a bomb to begin with. The machinery required must be extremely precise and is not cheap nor readily available. While China or Russia could provide that type of technology, I doubt they would.

 
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