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Subject: Best Semi auto Pistol today?
Philippine Soldier    10/30/2003 9:29:00 AM
I love pistol shooting. I currently own and use the best plastic gun in the world, the Glock model 35. I have a calibre 40 S&W and magazine capacity is 15. It is very light, tough and reliable. I would like to hear from other peoples opinion. Which semi auto pistol is available in the market right now that is worth looking at. Is is the Para ordnance, Colt or others.
 
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ChdNorm    RE:Best pistol   11/18/2003 2:48:07 PM
I've fired the 22/45 but it still doesnt quite reach the level I'd like to see. It's close though. The thumb safety is too different to me. As well as the slide stop, and other misch controls. It's a good pistol though all in all. What I'd like to really see is just the manufactorers make thier standard service sidearms in .22LR. There is a new one out I don't have any experiance with yet that looks promising. The new .22 from Walther.
 
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fathulk       8/15/2007 2:58:14 PM
In my opinion the best handgun for pistol shooting is the m1911, but as self-defense an XD for the reason that it has the grip and trigger safety so u dont have a AD and u can take the shot very easily if nessesary.
 
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fathulk       8/15/2007 2:58:24 PM
In my opinion the best handgun for pistol shooting is the m1911, but as self-defense an XD for the reason that it has the grip and trigger safety so u dont have a AD and u can take the shot very easily if nessesary.
 
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DERu1911       3/10/2008 10:21:52 PM
I own several pistols and have shot many more.  When I first started buying pistols there were only two I have shot previously, A baby eagle 9mm and a Springfield 1911.  I bought the 1911.  shortly afterwards I bought a Desert Eagle.  If you want a gun that is prestigous to own get the Desert Eagle but honestly it's, to my suprise, not my favorite gun at all.  It's heavy but very accurate.  If it weren't for the fact that loading a clip down for long periods of time wears them out the 1911 would be my home defense gun of choice.   I've shot some Glocks and honestly I don't see what the big deal is about them.  I've shot guns that are much more accurate and something about a gun that a can of  xylol xylene could dissolve is a turnoff to me.  I Understand the weight is a huge factor but I like slightly heavier guns anyways so that is a bias of mine.  my Springfield m1911a1 milspec, which is just a bare bones gun, is my favorite right now.
 
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afrc       3/16/2008 1:51:27 AM
Hmm, give Kimber .45 a try. Kimber Pro Carry II is a very slim and portable 1911 type handgun (feels more like 9mm), reliable, incredibly precise, absorbs .45 recoil very well, but at $750+ is not cheap.
 
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Yimmy       3/18/2008 8:17:37 AM
You give some interesting comments Chdnorm.  I am actually rather tempted to buy a Norinco just to see how good it is.
 
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buzzard       3/18/2008 9:01:38 AM
Of course on the issue of "best" we will end up quite subjective.

I've got a pretty good collection at home, and I've shot a fair variety in addition to that.

I've found that the best performer in my hands is a Sig P220 in .45 ACP. Considering that is what really matters, discussion past that, for me, is fairly irrelevant. I haven't tried the P7 though, and I admit being rather curious. Though those are rather uncommon, so I don't know if/when I'll get a chance on that. I do have a USP40, P226, a couple 1911s, and some other stuff so you know my sample size.

Another gun which intrigues me is the new Sig P250. From what I've read it looks like it might be real nice. Of course I won't be buying another guy for a while now that I just picked up that Taurus.

buzzard

 
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hist_ed       3/19/2008 2:23:04 AM
I'll echo a few previous poster: the best handgun is one that fits you.    If you are in the market find a range that rents a variety of guns and try them all out.  Head out with any gun owning buddies and shoot everything they have.   If you do better with a 9mm that a .40 or .45, then that is the caliber for you.  If you can hit more reliably with something then use it rather than worry about a 10% difference in one shot stop figures.   
I bought a Stoeger Cougar in 9mm a couple of months back and really like it (Stoeger is a baretta subsidiary and the Cougar is one of their designs.  The Stoeger version is made in Turkey instead of Italy and is a few hundred cheaper).  Still getting aquainted with it-not enough spare time to hit the range as often as I like.  
I have an old Spanish 9mm, a Star BM.  It looks a lot like a smaller 1911, single stack 8 round mag.  For whatever reason it fits my hand better than anything else I've owned.   Cost me $150 plus another $100 or so getting it worked on.   I get better groups with it than I do with any of my buddies' $1000 guns.   A big part of that is practice, I have 1000 rounds or so through it.   Another part is the fit.   I can't carry it with a round in the chamber, with the hammer down the firing pin rests against the primer and the safety is crap so c o c k ed and locked is out, too.    Hence the Cougar.   I still have to put in a lot more practice time before it's my carry gun.
 
Don't like Glocks much, too light and the traditionalist in me wants a hammer I can see.   I wonder about Glock fans emphasis on reliability ("pull the trigger it goes boom").   The only time I have had a gun not go off when it was loaded and I pulled the trigger was when a buddy's wife ran a few 1911 mags through the wash and didn't tell him.     I guess in stressful situations one might forget to flip a safety, but if you make it part of the drill every time you practice then it should be as automatic as drawing the weapon from the holster.  
 
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Horsesoldier       3/19/2008 10:56:06 AM

Of course on the issue of "best" we will end up quite subjective.

I've got a pretty good collection at home, and I've shot a fair variety in addition to that. 

Considering that is what really matters, discussion past that, for me, is fairly irrelevant.  Though those are rather uncommon, so I don't know if/when I'll get a chance on that. I do have a USP40, P226, a couple 1911s, and some other stuff so you know my sample size.

Of course I won't be buying another guy for a while now that I just picked up that Taurus.

buzzard

I've found that the best performer in my hands is a Sig P220 in .45 ACP.
 
+1.  The P220 is a superb design.  If I could only have one .45 caliber pistol, the choice between a P220 and a nice 1911 would be extremely hard to make.
 
I haven't tried the P7 though, and I admit being rather curious.
 
People tend to either love them or not like them much at all.  I really like them, but haven't liked them enough to spend $1500+ on one (you can get the German police surplus cheaper, but I wouldn't want the heel mag release, personally).
 
Another gun which intrigues me is the new Sig P250. From what I've read it looks like it might be real nice.
 
It's a cool idea, I'm not sure on the execution.  I haven't played with one yet, but the only owner feedback I've heard yet was a cop who'd bought one and  was dropping it off to sell on consignment at a gun store I was shopping in.  He wasn't impressed, apparently.  If I remember right, he did not like the trigger for some reason (I guess it is different than standard Sig triggers, as that tends to be one of the features of their pistols most people really like).
 
 


 
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buzzard       3/19/2008 2:10:54 PM

Another gun which intrigues me is the new Sig P250. From what I've read it looks like it might be real nice.

 

It's a cool idea, I'm not sure on the execution.  I haven't played with one yet, but the only owner feedback I've heard yet was a cop who'd bought one and  was dropping it off to sell on consignment at a gun store I was shopping in.  He wasn't impressed, apparently.  If I remember right, he did not like the trigger for some reason (I guess it is different than standard Sig triggers, as that tends to be one of the features of their pistols most people really like).


I've never shot one, but just read an article on it in Guns and Ammo. Of course I know G&A is pretty much pure rah rah for any product they review, so I would certainly want to try before I buy. I understand that the gun has no real double or single action per se, but rather more like the 1.5ish action on a Glock. Of course this could be why the person didn't like that trigger. Though in a carry gun, I can see the advantage in a consistent trigger pull. When I get around to getting my Colorado CCW, I will have to decide if I want to go with the 1991 officers for compactness and consistent trigger pull, or my P220 with which I shoot a little better. Likely it will be the latter.

buzzard
 
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