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Subject: Obama moves proactively on CTBT, China then has to follow- Realistic?
Necromancer    4/6/2009 12:54:02 AM
PRAGUE, (AFP) – US President Barack Obama will seek Senate ratification of the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty and call for a global summit on nuclear security in a speech in Prague, the White House said. The commitment was contained in a "Fact Sheet" issued by the White House in Prague, on the latest stop of Obama's debut European tour as president and as North Korea rocked the world with a rocket launch. "To achieve a global ban on nuclear testing, the Obama Administration will work to bring the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty into force, including Senate ratification of the Treaty," the White House said in a statement. "The Treaty has already been ratified by 148 countries, and it will enter into force once it is ratified by the U.S., China, India, Pakistan, Israel, Iran, Egypt, Indonesia, and North Korea." In a major speech in Prague, on the latest leg of his European tour, Obama would also seek to negotiate a new international treaty that "verifiably ends the production of fissile materials for nuclear weapons," the statement said. news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090405/pl_afp/usnuclearnkoreatreatyobama_20090405052656
 
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YelliChink       4/6/2009 3:29:54 AM
I don't know. What do you think of it, Herc?
 
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WarNerd       4/6/2009 4:37:46 AM
They are talking about the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty.  The Democrats have helped oppose it in the past (that's why it has never been submitted to the Senate for ratification), but they may be so determined to appear successful about world peace that they vote for it on the banking on the assumption some of the others will not, thereby keeping it from going into effect and rendering their approval moot.
 
It's your typical UN treaty.  Overly optimistic about the willingness of people to keep their word, and lacking any meaningful enforcement mechanism if they do not.
 
A treaty that  "verifiably ends the production of fissile materials for nuclear weapons" is even less likely to gain the necessary approvals in any workable form.
 
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Photon       5/12/2009 11:31:46 PM
It has become rather amusing how contemporary courtier-diplomatic mentality measures successes in diplomacy by numbers of of treaties signed and ratified.  Something a cool customer would frown on.  The more your signature shows up on pages after pages of dotted lines, the more imbecile you become.  Diplomacy is no different than that of handling a business contract.  A person signs, because he expects some sort of return on investment, not because how much prettier the signature sheet would appear with his work of art.  Meanwhile, no fool is going to sign a contract, unless he is confident that it will be enforced.
 
Instead, one's own successes in diplomacy ought to be measured by how much he has achieved whatever he wanted with as fewest signatures as possible.
 
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stbretnco       5/12/2009 11:36:52 PM
Ratified or not, this will be about as effective as the Kellog-Briand Pact.
 
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stbretnco       5/12/2009 11:36:55 PM
Ratified or not, this will be about as effective as the Kellog-Briand Pact.
 
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