Of course not. And neither do they. That was the whole point of the 'non binding troop demoralizing/enemy supporting' bill. In their strange little heads, they think they are still able to claim support while satisfying their defeatist base. Problem is I don't think either will buy it.

 

 

Wait until they try to control the Iran war. Wooo boy, we're probably gonna see them actually cry.

More specifically, the Democrats can hem and haw all they want. Threaten defunding, limitations whatever, Unless they get 60 votes in the Senate, all the President has to do is veto it.

It would take 10 or more republicans to vote with them, anyone think they can really pull that off

Actually, you need a 2/3 majority in both houses for Congress to override a Presidential veto.  Your reference to 60 speaks to cloture, which is what is needed in the Senate to end a filibuster.  Regardless, in the near term (i.e. FY07), Congress will not be able to amend any current appropriations. 

However, this power through veto and filibuster to prevent defunding ends essentially on 30 September.  Future FY appropriations must be passed, and the veto authority and filibuster ability in the Senate cannot prevent the Democrats in Congress from crafting a budget that defunds the war in Iraq.  If the GOP wants to filibuster the defense appropriations bill and/or OIF supplementals, all it will do is block the bill in its entirety with the end result being that Iraq is defunded.  Thus, if the Democrats want to play hard ball and are willing to suffer the fallout, they have the ability to defund Iraq despite Presidential veto authority and the ability to filibuster in the Senate.

 

I don't see them willing to do so, especially given how they are scurrying from Murtha as we speak on his proposal, but they have the power.

I don't see them willing to do so, especially given how they are scurrying from Murtha as we speak on his proposal, but they have the power.

Yep. The ridiculously waste of time phrase 'non-binding' provided us with the first clue. Other than the vain attempt to appeal to the 'puller-outers' of their base (who aren't buying it) they managed to do nothing of substance...yet again. Oh, except for the whole morale thingie...which never seemed to matter for some.

 

I get the feeling of a good cop/bad cop scenario (Murtha and crew) playing up all the way to campaign time. With the media and her 'polls' reporting back (dutifully, I might add) with the 'water testing' results along the way. Which tells me from the periphery, they haven't a clue still about what they really want to do.

'sad part is that the average democrat is quite sure that George Bush has declared, and therefore has the power to un-declare, this war. The democrat house and senate are helpless to do anything about this war...least they gots good grammars.