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Subject: New anti-radiation approach
EW3    11/5/2006 7:41:37 AM
very cool. No longer do we need a HARM, we can use other weapons to do the job (like an SDB). http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?storyID=123028953 HARM targeting system ready ahead of schedule 10/14/2006 - EGLIN AIR FORCE BASE, Fla. -- The delivery of 15 Revision-7 pods in September to the Air Combat Command by the 693rd Armament Systems Squadron's High-Speed Anti-Radiation Missile Targeting System Program is more than two months ahead of Raytheon's contract requirement date. The pod is mounted to the side of an F-16 aircraft and provides critical combat identification capabilities to pilots as they patrol the air above the battlefield. It allows a pilot to detect, locate and identify ground-based emitters. Armed with this data, a pilot can decide to avoid or engage a site. Unlike previous versions of HTS that relied heavily on HARM's ability to track radiating targets to complete the kill chain, this precision targeting capability allows the use of a variety of precision guided munitions to destroy targets. Once global positioning system coordinates are obtained, they can be targeted regardless of whether the target is emitting. This is the first major leap for the Air Force in transitioning from a mindset of suppression of enemy air defenses to a destruction of enemy air defenses. "The HTS has revolutionized combat and the tactics we employ in the air," said Lt. Col. Mike Jansen, 416th Flight Test Squadron commander. "The HTS will be a key component in building a battle order available to all forces on the net, ultimately saving lives and increasing air power effectiveness." Equipped with upgraded hardware that features a GPS receiver, a digital receiver, a new power supply and a redesigned software load, the R7 is compatible with the latest M3.4-F-16 operational flight program software and will enable pilots to destroy hostile emitters once employed with the upcoming M4.2+ software release in May 2007. "Everyone understood the importance of meeting ACC's delivery date, and they did everything humanly possible to make it happen. This team continues to deliver on its commitments," said Lt. Col. Al Iannaccone, 693rd ARSS commander. The R7 HTS development effort was put on contract in 2001 and received clearance to proceed with a retrofit program in February 2005. The current Air Force inventory of 200 HTS R6 pods will be retrofitted to R7 during the next two years.
 
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reefdiver       11/6/2006 1:43:21 PM
Simply amazing new capabilities and possibilities...Wonder if they'll mount it on a UCAV armed, as you mentioned, with SDB's and perhaps the future VSM's.
 
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Yimmy       11/6/2006 1:54:46 PM
Surely there is nothing new here, the British ALARM missile has been able to log an emitters location and engage it even when the set is turned off for years.
 
 
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DarthAmerica       11/6/2006 9:20:36 PM

Surely there is nothing new here, the British ALARM missile has been able to log an emitters location and engage it even when the set is turned off for years.

LOL...get that ALARM to xmit that data to every shooter/non shooter and every weapon on the ATO!

Think:

1 Tornado + 1 Harm= 1 option for taking out an emitter plus risk to the Tornado.

1 Platform integrated with HTS + Any Weapon= Near Limitless options and in some cases ZERO risk to the platform.



Its an astonishing and profound difference.
 
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Yimmy       11/6/2006 9:25:10 PM
There is no difference that I can see where it comes to the weapon system.
 
The difference is in data-link, and the ability to hand out the information, rather than the missile keeping it to itself. 
 
It certainly isn't an advance in technology in its own sense.
 
 
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DarthAmerica       11/6/2006 9:43:35 PM

There is no difference that I can see where it comes to the weapon system.

The difference is in data-link, and the ability to hand out the information, rather than the missile keeping it to itself. 

It certainly isn't an advance in technology in its own sense.

Yimmy,

The HTS makes any weapon a "HARM". Thats a huge difference by any measure. Being able to use a 30k JDAM rather than a 300K HARM or ALARM. Also an ALARM uses Passive Radar Homing and/or INS and not GPS guidance which is a huge difference especially in terms of flexibility. Another thing is the HARM has to actually be fired to perform its duties. Platforms benefiting from HTS have the choice of avoidance or cooperative engagement in addition to traditional SEAD missions. Tremendous difference.

DA
 
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Yimmy       11/6/2006 10:16:23 PM
No it isn't.
 
The only difference is technology being used to say where the enemy is, rather than launching a munition to hit the enemy.
 
In either case, it is still useless if the enemy moves.
 
 
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DarthAmerica       11/6/2006 10:22:57 PM

No it isn't.

The only difference is technology being used to say where the enemy is, rather than launching a munition to hit the enemy.

In either case, it is still useless if the enemy moves.

Whatever dude. Just make sure you never say that to any RAF pilots.
 
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reefdiver       11/7/2006 12:13:23 AM
 Isn't obtaining the radiation source's GPS location something new?  Being able to attack with a half dozen different GPS guided air and ground delivered weapens when the radiation source is turned off seems significant. And what about being able to attack without firing a high-heat source and vapor trail missile?
 
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DarthAmerica       11/7/2006 12:26:27 AM

 Isn't obtaining the radiation source's GPS location something new?  Being able to attack with a half dozen different GPS guided air and ground delivered weapens when the radiation source is turned off seems significant. And what about being able to attack without firing a high-heat source and vapor trail missile?

Yes and yes. The USAF is going to love this. Rumor has it that several USAF platforms and a USN platform can already do this too!
 
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jessmo_24       11/7/2006 3:34:56 AM
I wonder if the F-35 will be able to do all of this off of the assembly line, and without a pod?
 
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