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Subject: Forbidden Planet
puffngrunt    10/3/2004 4:23:06 PM
For my money, Forbidden Planet remains the best sci-fi movie after almost 50 years, because it closely follows the book, because MGM spent a ton of money to get it right, and because of its amazing contradictions with other sci-fi and monster flicks of this time period. For starters, the people on the flying saucer are from earth, and they are the good guys. And they land on an alien planet, Altair Four, which has no aliens, only earth people who are hostile to the invaders on the saucer. There is the Eden-like garden of Dr. Morbius with its alien trees and rocks but filled with Tigers, deer, monkeys and other earth animals that a dead race called the Krell brought all the way from earth. There is the sparkling clean 1950s-looking house with its flowers and labor saving appliances--a household trash disintegrator and of course Robby the robot who does all the scut work, contrasted with the gloomy appearance of the brooding Dr. Morbius, who wears a sort of black magician's robes. There is the monster which cannot be run away from because it is carried around in the heads of all the earth people. Unlike the monsters in the cheap Fifties thrillers, this one is directed, and it even has a personality since we know whose monster it is. And under everything else, literally under the earth of Altair is the fabulous power station of the Krell, unattended for 20 million years, waiting for. . .what? And to think all of this will be destroyed by a kiss--it's Sleeping Beauty in reverse. A couple of other things. There's Robby's inability to harm intelligent life, which predates Asimov's three laws of Robotics. People still smoke cigarettes but they don't use matches--there is a tear-off tab igniter, like the tear off tabs on pop cans that weren't invented yet. The marvelous electric perimeter fence around the space cruiser. And for you history buffs, here's the real kicker: MGM had never done a sci-fi movie and they wanted to promote this one really big. They tried to buy a rocket from the Army to launch a space satellite. The Army said NO, of course. Imagine if a movie studio had beat the Soviets into space. Now there is a 'what might have been for you. . .'
 
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Desertmole    RE:Forbidden Planet   10/4/2004 2:37:15 AM
I have always liked the movie, though the weapons and defense of the ship seemed a little, um, hokie. Interestingly enough, the Army had the ability to orbit a missile back in the early 50s when it was testing the Redstone. During the testing program they were prohibited, by the State Department I think, from testing with the third stage fueled out of fear the payload package (instruments instead of a warhead) might go into orbit.
 
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blacksmith    RE:Forbidden Planet   11/22/2004 9:51:05 PM
The Redstone wasn't banned from orbit by the State Department. It was banned by the Defense Dept. The Navy Vanguard had been designated the first American orbital booster, despite the fact that the Army was ready and capable of going, because Vanguard was a "peaceful" missile. The Redstone was derived from a military missile. The Russians of course, not concerned with that touchie-feelie nonsense, threw a grapefruit on top of a military missile and skunked us.
 
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Cocoonboy    RE:Forbidden Planet   11/22/2004 10:18:10 PM
I was up late one night and saw that movie. I could'nt believe they even made movies like that in the 50's. I actually went out and bought it. 12 bucks. Long before the very dull and cold " Star Wars " overexagerations ( sorry you Star Wars fans........a fact is a fact ).
 
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eon    RE:Forbidden Planet   11/23/2004 5:54:13 PM
I agree that F.B. is a classic, and one of my ten favorite SF films of all time. But I must respectfully disagree on a couple of points. 1. "Forbidden Planet" did not "respectfully follow the book". The novel of the same name by "W.J. Stuart" (probably a pseudonym for Nicholas Nayfack, who wrote the original screenplay) was in fact one of the earliest "film novelizations" ever written; AFAIK, only "Metropolis" (1929 by Thea von Harbou, based on the silent classic written by her and directed by her husband, Fritz Lang), and "Things To Come" (based on the 1936 Alexander Korda production, both screenplay and novel written by H.G. Wells) predate it. Nayfack in fact based "Forbidden Planet" (original title "Planet of Death") on the William Shakespeare play "The Tempest". 2. The Three Laws of Robotics, as defined by Asimov, first appeared in the story "Logic", written by Asimov, in Astounding Science Fiction Magazine (now ANALOG), in 1943. Asimov credited Astounding's editor, John W. Campbell, with first defining the three principles. I think it would be very unsafe to assume that Nayfack was unaware of this, as he knew Campbell and Asimov personally and was an SF fan himself. (The above data from "Keep Watching The Skies!; Science Fiction Films of the Fifties" [vol. 1], by Bill Warren.) Just wanting to keep the record straight. Cheers. eon.
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan    RE:Forbidden Planet   12/5/2004 2:44:56 AM
I liked the idea of the psychological research tool the Krell had built that unleashed their inner demons that eventually destroyed them. A solid commentary on being irresponsible with research when everyone believed science could solve all problems.
 
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