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Subject: Warhammer 40k Stuff
ArtyEngineer    1/7/2008 12:45:45 AM
I know we have people on this forum who are familliar with the Universe. My little bro got me the Imperial Infantrymans Uplifting Primer for christmas (Basically the Handbook of the Imperial Guard) its hilarious. Im into 60k probably a little too much for a man of my age but who cares eh!!! Below "hopefully" is a cool tribute to teh Imperial Guard. The sondtrack is awesome. Really fits the mood of this organisation. http://www.youtube.com/v/h7Ewd8OeYEA&rel=1">http://www.youtube.com/v/h7Ewd8OeYEA&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"> Im currently reading the Horus Heresy Books as they are released and wondering if anyone else has, is or is planning to. They are pretty good.
 
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Yimmy       1/7/2008 10:12:18 AM
I used to like the warhammer stuff, both the fantasy stuff and the 40k stuff, when I was a kid.  Back then it was the case of it being too expensive, and now its the case of too little time I guess!
 
I was thinking about getting into the books, that or the books on the starwars universe.  Wouldn't know where to start with either though.
 
 
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Ehran       1/7/2008 11:22:53 AM
if you get off on WH40k there is a mmorpg based on the game coming along in the next 12 months or so.  one of the guys in my eve corp is in some kind of testing for it now and he says it's great fun.
 
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TrustButVerify       1/9/2008 7:43:44 AM
I won't be touching the MMO for the same reason I've never been able to get around to building my own 40K army- it's too much of a time sink. I do have to recommend the Dawn of War series of RTS games, though- great fun, and somewhat faithful to the source material.

It's a shame that the setting is so bleak, though.

 
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flamingknives       1/9/2008 4:14:35 PM
The bleak setting is what makes it, IMHO.

If the setting was all hopeful, it would be like Star Wars and would be very cartoony. The dark undertones are what make it palatable to me in my old (not very) age. Without the fiction and associated fluff, the concept would be far too sugary for my taste.

The Imperium, viewed from a certain distance, is a genocidal, xenophobic, corrupt and reactionary dictatorship. And they're the good guys.
 
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flamingknives       1/9/2008 4:21:22 PM
The bleak setting is what makes it, IMHO.

If the setting was all hopeful, it would be like Star Wars and would be very cartoony. The dark undertones are what make it palatable to me in my old (not very) age. Without the fiction and associated fluff, the concept would be far too sugary for my taste.

The Imperium, viewed from a certain distance, is a genocidal, xenophobic, corrupt and reactionary dictatorship. And they're the good guys.
 
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Armchair Private       1/9/2008 9:11:51 PM
"and they're the good guys"

h*tp://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LdRbiJ29VkM&feature=related

Heh heh heh.

It's an original mythos. I like.

This is what happens when a couple of generations of English men grow up without being allowed to invade other countries you know.... :-)

Star Wars and Star Trek are very American, British Sci Fi is always dark, like this and Blake's 7.





 
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WarNerd       1/10/2008 3:51:28 AM
What I like best about british SciFi is that they have managed to produce some very thoughtful, interesting, and inspiring series on extremely limited budgets.
 
I just hope that the bigger budgets they are now getting do not end up destroying them.
 
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flamingknives       1/10/2008 1:45:00 PM
Even the Tau aren't the good guys.

At best they are hopelesly naive, more likely they're one of those cults that looks nice on the surface but somewhat callous to people who raise objections, at worst they're a front for the ruinous powers.
 
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Zad Fnark       1/24/2008 7:30:40 AM
Yeah, the second Tau codex had a bit of an "edge" to them compared to the Star Trek image portrayed in the first one.  They don't seem to be above the occasional massacre.
 
I'm currently reading the Ravenor series by Dan Abnett.  I'm getting little done at home lately.
 
40k/FB is definately a time and money sink.  I haven't build any WWII aircraft models in 4 years.  I've probably spent more on this than guns and R/C airplanes combined, even counting the 1866 Springfield I bought last year.  This wouldn't have such a hold on me if the setting and fiction behind it wasn't so compelling.
 
Of course, having a short attention span, I've got several different armies in the works, in various stages.  The effect of this is that none of them (except the necrons) is particularly large yet.  He who works on everything works on nothing, I guess.
 
I'm looking forward to Uriel Ventris' return this summer in Graham McNeill's next Ultramarines novel.
 
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flamingknives       1/24/2008 1:41:39 PM
I've just been re-reading Ian Watson's "Inquisition War" books. So very, very dark.

Abnett's books are good but lack a certain darkness. The common people of the Imperium know far too much about the nature of the universe that they inhabit.
 
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