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Subject: Saudi Blog
Final Historian    4/27/2004 1:14:25 AM
http://muttawa.blogspot.com/ A new Saudi weblog that goes by the name The Religious Policeman. A fascinating persepective from the "Magic Kingdom."
 
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happyman77    RE:Saudi Blog   5/24/2004 10:39:32 PM
Someone posted a link to that blog a few weeks ago. I have been following it since then, very interesting. Check out the link to Mahmood's Den.
 
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giblets    RE:Saudi Blog   5/25/2004 8:22:31 AM
This is good,a nd amusing site, and should help put some of the gross stereotypes and stories based on this and other pages, about what the Arabs think about much of the goings on in the world. Yes Islamic fundamentalists are a real problem, but then again, pretty much all religious fundametalists cause havoc throughoput the world, you only have to see 'pro-life' campaigners to see this.
 
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bsl    RE:Saudi Blog   5/25/2004 10:58:33 PM
"all religious fundametalists cause havoc throughoput the world, you only have to see 'pro-life' campaigners to see this" Comparing a series of demonstrations and perhaps a dozen violent incidents to Islamic fundamentalism is like comparing violent crime in Luxembourg to the Nazis.
 
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Final Historian    RE:Saudi Blog   5/26/2004 2:18:40 AM
"Comparing a series of demonstrations and perhaps a dozen violent incidents to Islamic fundamentalism is like comparing violent crime in Luxembourg to the Nazis" One way of putting it. How many people were murdered by anti-abortionists last year? Compare that to the number of people killed by Islamic Radicals. A little perspective here.
 
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giblets    RE:Saudi Blog   5/26/2004 3:21:57 PM
Well, glad we got that one sorted out, it is Americans we should be scared of then! with a Homicide Rate of 5.5/100,000 compared to Israel at 5.2/ 100,000, or the UK at 1.61 or France 1.7! And for under 15's out of the top 25 industrialised nations 75% of the total homicides (total from 26 nations) occured in the US! Sleep well!
 
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happyman77    RE:Saudi Blog   5/26/2004 9:03:31 PM
"One way of putting it. How many people were murdered by anti-abortionists last year? Compare that to the number of people killed by Islamic Radicals. A little perspective here." How much of that is due to effective policing? I wonder.......
 
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giblets    RE:Saudi Blog   5/28/2004 9:53:59 AM
Well that is apart from the Branch Dividian sect etc, the KuKlux Clan, anti homosexuality, abortion, the bombing at the Atlanta games yes, they are all lovely people, and of course we will forget the 'hitlists' of abortion doctors produced by these people I also love the stories about countless Palestinians shooting their own children and stuff, but we will get a reply saying that in paragragh three, sentance four, it said something else. I know that often the beating to death of gay men is not repeated in the media as Christian extremists, but rather gay bashers or something, but this stuff happens, I am still amazed at how racist and downright rupugnant many of the posts are, of course, if you refered to Jews as rats, I am sure you would be out of here faster than a rat out of an aquaduct. Please, whilst there are many many kind Muslims out there, many of whom I coudl count as friends, indeeed I have many Jewish friends also, I will agree that there are those out there who are extreemists, on all sides, all this talk of wife beatings and such, as can be seen in the blog are seen as abhorent by many muslims. By preaching views that all arabs think that wife beating is acceptable, is like quoting a Ku Klux Clan minister on Race relations, both are extreemists. Interestingly Abu Hamza, that odious little man known as the hook being extradited from the UK to the US choses as his defense lawyer...a woman.
 
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Vulture    Giblets - please admit the disparity   5/30/2004 12:04:54 PM
Gibletts claims christian fanatics's killing rank up their with moslem fanatics. Then in additional posts relates to (isolated) events scattered over a decade. Giblets how about we stack one decade of Christian fundies's atrocitites to one year of muslim "honor" killings in Pakistan. so 880 honor deaths vs what, maybe 300 deaths by your various chridtian wackos. And pakistan honor killing are low compared to many other mulsim countries. And by the way the Klan does not kill in the name of god last I checked. Yes the KKK are extremists but it more of a idealist insanity versus a christian fundie kind of thing. Giblets do not quote "death rates to us here. Once you realize that countries count deats differenly , then you realize the futility. NOTE: in Pakistan an honor killing does not count as a murder statistic. And one wonders why poeple think American Kafir is an extremist with his hatred of islam. Where is a reform movment when you need one for Islam?
 
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giblets    RE:Giblets - please admit the disparity   6/2/2004 7:59:29 AM
I will agree with you on that, there is a disparity, though to a certain extent I believe it is due to the religious messages, Christianity used to teach the smae kind of thing,a nd thus we had the spanish inquisition, the crusades etc (so really saying PARTS of Islam are in the dark ages!). Extreemists have been brought up all over the world in poor regions, and by small minorities. There are reformist and moderate parts of Islam (look at Dubai Egypt etc), just like our friendly blog. Who states that you should not attack 'innocents' or 'Guests' in your country. In Europe the press reports deaths in Israel slightly differently, no offence, but when the Israeli army reports it killed 5 armed extreemists, the Arab media reports innocent protestors, I would not beleive either. However, it is one reason for hatred of Israel and the US has been fuelled in many areas.
 
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TriggaFingaz    Hamza Description   6/2/2004 5:30:59 PM
Abu Hamza is not an odious little man. He's odious but he's NOT little, but tubby.
 
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