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Subject: Denmark and Norway agrees on dividing the Arctic Sea
TheArmchairCmd    2/20/2006 10:19:04 AM
The carving up of the Artic seas are accelerating these years. There is going to be a lot of this sort of things going on.
Denmark and Norway agrees on dividing the Arctic Sea The Danish minister of foreign affairs, Per Stig Møller, and his Norwegian counterpart, Jonas Gahr Støre, will this Monday sign an (final) agreement on how to divide the sea between Greenland and Svalbard. The Norwegians hope that the agreement will pave the the way for similar negotiations with Russia. Denmark and Norway has earlier been in bitter dispute about sea- and landareas, and twice the Hague Court has been called to make the decision. I 1933 it decided that the entirety of Green belonged to Denmark and in 1933 Norway had the better in the dispute of the island of Jan Mayen. This time the negotiations have been very peaceful, says Jonas Gahr Støre to the Norwegian paper Aftenposten. "It is a wise delineation between two neighbours. The agreement makes clear the exploitation of the resources in the area," says Jonas G S. The Norwegians hope that the agreement also can pave the way for a similar agreement with Russia. Norway and Russia have until now been in disagreement regarding the delineation of borders in the Barents Sea, where the coastlines aren't as regular (smooth) as in the case of greenland and Svalbard.
http://pics.jp.metropol.dk/160/160808/160808_large.jpg> The delineation can be found in this http://www.um.dk/NR/rdonlyres/42AA838F-904E-46AD-AE2E-611A04922CF4/0/Kortskitseendelbilagtiloverenskomsten160106.pdf TARGET=_blank>PDF. My offhand translation from http://www.strategypage.com/messageboards/messages/480-1635.asp
 
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TheArmchairCmd    RE:Denmark and Norway agrees on dividing the Arctic Sea   2/20/2006 10:20:58 AM
No! My offhand translation from Jyllands Posten, the world famous news paper! ;) http://www.jp.dk/indland/artikel:aid=3568122/
 
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Weasel    RE:Denmark and Norway agrees on dividing the Arctic Sea   3/19/2006 11:14:37 AM
what about denmark and canada? how is that relationship going? cheers w
 
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TheArmchairCmd    RE:Denmark and Norway agrees on dividing the Arctic Sea   3/19/2006 2:45:09 PM
They are very fine and amiable. Status is that Denmark did not plant a flag on Hans Ø as per tradition this year. This is not to make an issue of a non-issue. The more sinister motive could be that we are denying the enemy comfort, by not supplying a bottle of Gammel Dansk snaps to the Island. Thus if the Canucks decide to go for, they will find it to be wasted effort. ;) Serious. The waters around Hans Ø are divided and it is only the rock itself that is in contention. It is a leftover from treaties in the 70's. Denmark and Canada wont relent on their claims as a matter of principle, so it will end up in the Hague Court and be decided there within a short timeframe (years). This year the joint effort between Denmark and Canada of mapping out the arctic seas north of Canada-Greenland begins. This is a precursor to all territorial claims, that by treaty will have to be made within 9 years from now. So relations are very friendly on all levels. And if the Cdn military can get som funding out of this issue, it is a thing that poses no problem to Denmark. ;) TAC
 
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TheArmchairCmd    RE:Denmark and Norway agrees - W   3/19/2006 2:53:29 PM
They are very fine and amiable. Status is that Denmark did not plant a flag on Hans Ø as per tradition last year. This is as not to make an issue of a non-issue. The more sinister motive could be that we are denying the enemy comfort, by not supplying a bottle of Gammel Dansk snaps to the Island. Thus if the Canucks decide to go for, they will find it to be wasted effort. ;) Serious. The waters around Hans Ø are divided and it is only the rock itself that is in contention. It is a leftover from treaties in the 70's. Denmark and Canada wont relent on their claims as a matter of principle, so it will end up in the Hague Court and be decided there within a short timeframe (years). This year the joint effort between Denmark and Canada of mapping out the arctic seas north of Canada-Greenland begins. This is a precursor to all territorial claims, that by treaty will have to be made within 9 years from now. So relations are very friendly on all levels. That is how I see it, but ask the Canucks... :) And if the Cdn military can get som funding out of this issue, it is a thing that poses no problem to Denmark. ;) TAC
 
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Jungle-Man    From a Canuck   3/19/2006 2:59:29 PM
Most people here dont give a damn about Hans Il. Its just the goverment's way of acting tough to hide the lack of funding to the military
 
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TheArmchairCmd    117 billion barrels of oil! Droool.   7/10/2006 4:07:04 PM
So the USGS says the geological setting makes 117 billion barrels of oil posssible in this area alone, with a median confidence level of 57 billion. Nobody has drilled there yet, of course, so this will get exciting... Scroow the Saudis! We are going to get rich!
 
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timon_phocas    RE:Denmark and Norway agrees on dividing the Arctic Sea   7/10/2006 4:23:38 PM
>> what about denmark and canada? how is that relationship going? << ongoing, intense negotiations have stalled by Danish inability to translate occurances of the Canadian phrase 'eh' that were inserted into the draft of a proposed agreement ;)
 
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TheArmchairCmd    RE:Denmark and Norway agrees on dividing the Arctic Sea   7/10/2006 4:26:17 PM
">> what about denmark and canada? how is that relationship going? << ongoing, intense negotiations have stalled by Danish inability to translate occurances of the Canadian phrase 'eh' that were inserted into the draft of a proposed agreement ;)" Huh? ;)
 
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EW3    RE:117 billion barrels of oil! Droool. TAC   7/10/2006 4:37:59 PM
"So the USGS says the geological setting makes 117 billion barrels of oil posssible in this area alone, with a median confidence level of 57 billion." But I thought the earth was running out of oil? Signed, Confused
 
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TheArmchairCmd    RE:117 billion barrels of oil! Droool. EW3   7/10/2006 5:02:42 PM
"But I thought the earth was running out of oil? Signed, Confused" So did I... ;) I guess you are referring to my fondness of biofuels? In real terms, if there is so much oil and if it can be realized, then it will expand the world reserves like 9-10%. So Curiously, though this has actually been publically known for some years, but is not incorporated in any analysis of world oil production. I guess it is because they're currently classified as possible to probable.
 
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