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Subject: Galatea III
Thomas    8/10/2006 5:25:33 PM
1. It is the first time I've heard it said in public: Vædderen is a frigate. 2. Funny place to be sailing: Of east coast of Australia from Antarctica to Polynasia and then the same trip - only hitting Chile this time. Hobgoblins must abound there....
 
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Thomas    RE:Galatea III   8/14/2006 3:16:39 PM
Jyllands posten told about the marinebiologists that dump little containers on the seafloor - to listen the the song of whales. Wonder what tunes a Virginia class is reminiscent of.
 
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TAC II       9/3/2006 8:29:18 PM
 
This is an excellent publicity stunt... But the science doesn't require it.
 
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TAC II       9/3/2006 8:31:34 PM
 
A link for the english reading audience:
 
 
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Thomas    TAC   9/3/2006 8:36:45 PM
Precisely: Look at the places they sail!
 
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Thomas    TAC   9/3/2006 8:42:39 PM
Wonder if her last port of call isn't Norfolk??????
 
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Thomas    Elaborate Please?   9/4/2006 5:19:07 AM

 

This is an excellent publicity stunt... But the science doesn't require it.


TAC: Could You elaborate on that? I believe it is Your turf.

 
 
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TAC II       9/7/2006 2:36:32 PM




 
This is an excellent publicity stunt... But the science doesn't require it.



TAC: Could You elaborate on that? I believe it is Your turf.
 

What I meant by that was that you could do the same science for perhaps a half-third of the cost of sending a frigate around the world. Usually you would choose the optimal time and location for such work, hire local scientific or commercial vessels, and bring in your own or lease instruments on location. That's the cost-effective way of doing it.

Here the science is constrained by the schedule of the voyage, though a great deal of flexibility may be laid in. Large dedicated science vessels come in at around 10,000 $ a day. What is the running cost of a frigate that also will have many non-productive days?

The vessel is overkill in terms of size for some of the research. Gravity cores are an example. On the other hand seismic profiling and hydrographic surveys are examples of work that probably would have been carried out anyway (eg by Thetis), so there is an overlap between work that should have been done anyway in this particular area. And sampling by a variety of methods that support each other does improve on the end result.

Let me just say there is some interesting knowledge gained by mapping out the ancient rivers on the ocean bed, when recontructing the maximum extent of the Greenland Ice Sheets in the past.

So what is gained with the premium paid for this type of voyage. Well, there is the focus on science which should help in the general interest in the public and hence more students. Then there is the focus on the Navy, which will be less, but it will raise awareness. Lastly, it is also a high-profile representation of Denmark abroad.

Then there is the sense of tradition and adventure by a global voyage.

I won't say the money for it is deducted from the normal grants. I guess extra money has been found haven't looked into it. It actually centers around if you think the entire package is worth it.
 
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Thomas    TAC   9/7/2006 5:01:52 PM
You share the hunch that there is more to this than meets the press eye.
 
The Navy does not muck around with one of their hight seas capable ships to look for little green worms.
 
 
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