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Subject: How to prevent Turkey from invading Iraq
SGTObvious    10/19/2007 1:28:57 PM
It is quite simple, really. The US must adopt the exact opposite of its current policy. Instead of telling Turkey that its a bad thing, Bush must publicly demand that Turkish troops aid the US in securing Iraq. Considering Turkish Pride, Turkish attitudes towards the US, and Turkish attitudes towards Bush, this will mean not one Turkish soldier steps across the border. SGTObvious
 
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FJV       10/19/2007 1:32:31 PM
Stop PKK incursions into Turkey, which is harder to do than it seems, because the PKK are the leftist darlings in the West. The Kurds should be told: "We can feel your pain, but this terror stuff on Turkey has to stop."



 
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Ehran       10/19/2007 1:38:07 PM

It is quite simple, really. The US must adopt the exact opposite of its current policy. Instead of telling Turkey that its a bad thing, Bush must publicly demand that Turkish troops aid the US in securing Iraq. Considering Turkish Pride, Turkish attitudes towards the US, and Turkish attitudes towards Bush, this will mean not one Turkish soldier steps across the border.

SGTObvious

and after they prove you wrong by "helping" secure the kurds in northern iraq you have an equally great idea to get them to go home sometime in the future?
 
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SGTObvious       10/19/2007 3:11:10 PM



It is quite simple, really. The US must adopt the exact opposite of its current policy. Instead of telling Turkey that its a bad thing, Bush must publicly demand that Turkish troops aid the US in securing Iraq. Considering Turkish Pride, Turkish attitudes towards the US, and Turkish attitudes towards Bush, this will mean not one Turkish soldier steps across the border.

SGTObvious


and after they prove you wrong by "helping" secure the kurds in northern iraq you have an equally great idea to get them to go home sometime in the future?


Of course!   If Bush demands that the Turkish troops STAY, they will leave immediately, just to prove they are not American puppets.
But, that will not be necessary if he demands help from them, for the same reasons.  No Turkish leader wants to appear as if he is giving in to American demands. 
 
SGTObvious
 
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kane       10/19/2007 3:57:50 PM
lol thats a funny perspective but really things doesn't work like that....actually our leader does whatever USA wants...with the pressure from leftists and the army and the people of course our LEADER HAD TO agree in this thing at the end....because it was looking like he was supporting those terrorists....
 
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paul1970       10/19/2007 4:04:04 PM






It is quite simple, really. The US must adopt the exact opposite of its current policy. Instead of telling Turkey that its a bad thing, Bush must publicly demand that Turkish troops aid the US in securing Iraq. Considering Turkish Pride, Turkish attitudes towards the US, and Turkish attitudes towards Bush, this will mean not one Turkish soldier steps across the border.

SGTObvious



and after they prove you wrong by "helping" secure the kurds in northern iraq you have an equally great idea to get them to go home sometime in the future?



Of course!   If Bush demands that the Turkish troops STAY, they will leave immediately, just to prove they are not American puppets.

But, that will not be necessary if he demands help from them, for the same reasons.  No Turkish leader wants to appear as if he is giving in to American demands. 

 

SGTObvious


ermmm...  presume you are just doing the humour thing here.....
 
Bush inviting them in is what they have been asking for.... they will see this as him finally giving in to common sense and their demands. and say thank you for seeing the light......2 years late as usual...... :-)
 
seriously for a minute... they must have been given a bit of a green light already as they have been crossing over for last few months after they stepped up the political heat back at end of last year. the latest escalation is probably because the light is getting brighter....
 
either that or they have decided to go against the US public demands that the do not cross because they see nothing to lose anymore and US badwill is not as bad as the damage the PKK are causing. could even be a big pre warning against the setting up of Kurdistan...
 
Paul
 
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Claymore       10/30/2007 1:48:53 AM
Are these Turkish Kurds hiding in Iraq or Iraqi Kurds attacking Turkey?
 
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WarNerd       10/30/2007 4:02:12 AM
Seems a bit of both.
 
The area they are supposed to be hiding in sounds a lot like Tora Bora.  Mountainous, isolated, and with few roads.
 
Turkey has mounted several attacks in the past, but without much effect.  The Kurds act as if they think the Turks will refuse to leave if they do invade, but I expect that the Turks won't stay one second longer than they have to.
 
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paul1970       10/30/2007 7:34:56 AM

Seems a bit of both.

 

The area they are supposed to be hiding in sounds a lot like Tora Bora.  Mountainous, isolated, and with few roads.

 

Turkey has mounted several attacks in the past, but without much effect.  The Kurds act as if they think the Turks will refuse to leave if they do invade, but I expect that the Turks won't stay one second longer than they have to.


yep....    lots of PKK sheltering in Iraq to prevent them being attacked by Turks...
 
Iraqi government is basically protecting these terrorists when they don't do anything to stop them operating and refuse to allow others to sort out the problem.... a lot of the reason behind lack of action is that the Kurds have a big power basis within the Iraqi government structure and the US is not being very clear on what their policy towards terrorists is.
 
Kurds also attack Iran and Syria (to a far lesser degree) from within Iraq.
 
I also expect that the Turks would be out as quick as they can as they have no desire to appear as an occupier and there is little to gain by trying to stay there.
 
Paul
 
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SGTObvious       11/2/2007 12:15:41 PM

I also expect that the Turks would be out as quick as they can as they have no desire to appear as an occupier and there is little to gain by trying to stay there.
Paul
Just like Cyprus, Paul?
 
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kane       11/2/2007 1:20:16 PM



I also expect that the Turks would be out as quick as they can as they have no desire to appear as an occupier and there is little to gain by trying to stay there.

Paul

Just like Cyprus, Paul?
It'd be better if you tried to look from other points of view and do a lot more research about things like that from sources that say the otherwise to make your own conclusion

 
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