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Subject: Indonesia CAN Invade Australia - Who Let the Muppets Out?
Bigfella2    11/20/2007 3:02:26 AM
I found this beauty on another board & just had to share. The obsession with gun ownership suggests to me that the 'club' he belongs to spends a lot of time burying their firearms & making up 'register poofters not guns' posters. Lots of good healthy middle class whinging white man love there. I haven't posted a reply yet, but I'd love to hear the views of the collective on SP. Attention to demolishing specific points would be much appreciated. BF "Although most people think the idea is preposterous, an Indonesian invasion of Australia is quite possible. Australia has never really seen war on its own soil (apart from Darwin and a couple of Japanese subs in Sydney Harbour in WW2) and the citizens are very complacent towards homeland security. The Australian gun laws have rendered the city dwellers unprotected and there are virtually no bomb shelters. Most Australian houses would fall apart with a few blasts from an AK47 and the occupants would surrender in a second. With the majority of Australians, there is a firm belief that "We're too isolated and the U.S. will support us". It would take several weeks for the U.S. and Nato to organise troops to Australia, and if the Indonesian Military were already here and had taken over Australia's military resources (which is highly feesable), there would be a war of massive proportions. "But wouldn't Indonesia be leaving their own country unprotected?", I hear you ask... No, because there are approximately 50 million Indonesian citizens with illegal guns and there would be no point trying to fight them on home soil... remember Vietnam? Nuking them would be the only viable option, and nobody wants to do that. I know it seems ridiculous, but my friends and I are members of a club who analyze strategies and the potential for one country to take over another. We do this with ALL factors in mind, including economic, population, political, and resource motivations, as well as good old border expansion. The Indonesia versus Australia debate was one we worked on for months. In the end, we found that Australia would easily fall to a full-scale invasion by Indonesia in less than 72 hours! If you could imagine a few dozen container ships, full of military equipment and men, unloading in the middle of the night into every capital city's harbour, whilst strategically placed and timed bombs are distracting the depleted Australian forces and law enforcement throughout these cities (remember that many Allied soldiers, Navy and Air Force are on active duty in Iraq, East Timor, Africa and Afghanistan and there are already over 300,000 Indonesians residing in Australia), plus the limited Allied Air Forces could be pushed into a conflict with the Indonesian Air Force in the Northern Territory (far, far away from the east coast cities), and with little to NO resistance from the general population, the invasion could be achieved almost OVERNIGHT! A well executed plan of attack, matched with 200,000 military personnel, a couple of hundred tanks, and a few dozen fighters and bombers, could do the job for Indonesia... Imagine if they were backed by China or Russia... The reality is, though, is that it's all speculation and games. Indonesia may win in the end, but it relies SOLELY on the fact that guns have been banned in Australia for everybody except farmers, hunters and sportshooters. If Australian citizens had compulsory military service or allowed citizens to own guns, Indonesia wouldn't stand a chance. Then again, Australia doesn't have either, do they?"
 
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gf0012-aust       11/20/2007 4:25:03 AM
lets assume that the swift hand of god decides to deal a comedic blow and allow everyone in the country the right to carry a long arm, and a centre fire one at that.
 
do the math.  whats the guns per square mile of the north west of australia (the most likely geographical point of entry)
 
Do they think that having guns will result in an antipodean version of Rorkes Drift?
 
I've come across this crowd before in FNQ, in the late 80's to mid 90's they were pretty common around Rockhampton esp.
 
Australias own version of the Michigan Militia.
 
 
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gf0012-aust       11/20/2007 4:31:55 AM
I should add, that when people start playing the racial demographic argument then we can also argue the following
 
we will be invaded by the greeks (largest helenic diaspora outside of greece)
we will be invaded by the italians (big mobs in adelaide and melb
we will be invaded by Kiwis (largest kiwi diaspora in Sydney)
we will be invaded by chinese (we're all over the place, darwin, FNQ, east coast, you name it, we have take away shops and uni students already in place ready to rise up and teach the gwailos a lesson)
turks - oakley
vietnamese - Virginia and Pennington, the little bastards have even done a very australian thing and bought some pubs to get us pissed before they fight us!
 
etc etc......
 
gimme a break. to paraphase the great articulate wabbit "what a maroon"
 
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Kevin Pork       11/20/2007 5:09:58 AM

If you could imagine a few dozen container ships, full of military equipment and men, unloading in the middle of the night into every capital city's harbour,

Self unloading container ships. cool.
 
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Bigfella2       11/20/2007 5:52:46 AM

lets assume that the swift hand of god decides to deal a comedic blow and allow everyone in the country the right to carry a long arm, and a centre fire one at that.

 

do the math.  whats the guns per square mile of the north west of australia (the most likely geographical point of entry)

 

Do they think that having guns will result in an antipodean version of Rorkes Drift?

 

I've come across this crowd before in FNQ, in the late 80's to mid 90's they were pretty common around Rockhampton esp.

 

Australias own version of the Michigan Militia.

 


 
Yeah, the obsession with gun ownership & race were a bit of a tipoff. Probably thought Hanson was a piker.
 
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Bigfella2       11/20/2007 5:59:34 AM

I should add, that when people start playing the racial demographic argument then we can also argue the following

 

we will be invaded by the greeks (largest helenic diaspora outside of greece)


we will be invaded by the italians (big mobs in adelaide and melb

we will be invaded by Kiwis (largest kiwi diaspora in Sydney)

we will be invaded by chinese (we're all over the place, darwin, FNQ, east coast, you name it, we have take away shops and uni students already in place ready to rise up and teach the gwailos a lesson)

turks - oakley

vietnamese - Virginia and Pennington, the little bastards have even done a very australian thing and bought some pubs to get us pissed before they fight us!

 

etc etc......

 

gimme a break. to paraphase the great articulate wabbit "what a maroon"




Now you've given the game away GF. I KNEW all those takeaway stores were part of a plot to take over Australia. I just KNEW it.
 
What the crude racial demographis argument ignores (well, one of the things) is that a goodly portion of the Indonesians in Australia came here to avoid precisely the sort of government likely to want to invade Australia. Not exactly a 5th column waiting for the signal from Jakarta.
 
Oh, and what money that among the dubious '300,000' figure are East Timorese, Achenese, Irian Jayans & other refugee communities?
 
Does that make you doubly dangerous GF?
 
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gf0012-aust       11/20/2007 7:12:50 AM


Oh, and what money that among the dubious '300,000' figure are East Timorese, Achenese, Irian Jayans & other refugee communities?
 

Does that make you doubly dangerous GF?

some of my rellies in NT are Timorese,  give them half a chance and they'd be bombing the indons themselves.  these boofheads obviously make judgments based on their latitude and longitude of birth.....
I almost burnt my career in the 70's.  I got invited to a party to raise money for the Timorese community. he usual thing, pig on a spit, other bits in a "hungy", darwin stubbies and a "pass the hat" around for spare dosh.
 
I got called in 2 weeks later and was asked to explain myself.  Apparently the thing was run by Fretilin.  I didn't even know what Fretilin was so it came as a complete surprise.  Generally, Timorese are pretty shy, so no one even thought about explaining what the one way raffle was for.

I ended up with a caution and I didn't even know what I'd done wrong!
 
 
 
 
 
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Enterpriser       11/20/2007 8:03:22 AM





Oh, and what money that among the dubious '300,000' figure are East Timorese, Achenese, Irian Jayans & other refugee communities?

 



Does that make you doubly dangerous GF?



some of my rellies in NT are Timorese,  give them half a chance and they'd be bombing the indons themselves.  these boofheads obviously make judgments based on their latitude and longitude of birth.....

I almost burnt my career in the 70's.  I got invited to a party to raise money for the Timorese community. he usual thing, pig on a spit, other bits in a "hungy", darwin stubbies and a "pass the hat" around for spare dosh.

 

I got called in 2 weeks later and was asked to explain myself.  Apparently the thing was run by Fretilin.  I didn't even know what Fretilin was so it came as a complete surprise.  Generally, Timorese are pretty shy, so no one even thought about explaining what the one way raffle was for.

I ended up with a caution and I didn't even know what I'd done wrong!

 

 

 

 


There we have it GF (Gary)..........positive proof that you are a suspicious subversive enveiling yourself in Australia's strategic concerns for your evil Indonesian overlords and to teach the white ghosts a lesson! 
On the plus side.........these dinky-di militia make my views seem less radically right-wing.....so in comparison I am happy.
 
Brett.  
 
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fall out       11/20/2007 8:57:05 AM
Why would anyone bother responding to this?  Fire only feeds fire; muppets come and go and are always on here so just ignore them...
 
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Kevin Pork       11/20/2007 5:25:30 PM
and there are already over 300,000 Indonesians residing in Australia

Just to play with the paranoia, you might like to point out to the loon that if military firearm ownership were to become legal, surely those 300,000 evildoers would aquire a gun each, more than doubling the size of the force available to the invader.
 
Then they'd have to choose what they enjoy more, racist ranting or playing with guns.
 
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DropBear       11/20/2007 6:12:43 PM
The Australian gun laws have rendered the city dwellers unprotected and there are virtually no bomb shelters. Most Australian houses would fall apart with a few blasts from an AK47 and the occupants would surrender in a second.

This muppet is a right proper oxygen thief. Good grief!
 
Why are we unprotected? We can still own guns.
 
Who do we need protecting against? The KKK?
 
Invading armies? Yep, it's called Schoolies Week and it happens every year. Better get my shotgun handy.
 
Houses falling apart from small arms fire? Sounds like that Clint Eastwood movie, The Gauntlet wasn't it?
 
I'd surrender too if the entire nation and my city of 2M had been taken over. Yikes!
 
Bizarre.

 
 
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