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Subject: Question regarding Australian Military Vehicles
ArtyEngineer    11/5/2008 7:05:59 PM
Do Australian vehicles utilise the NATO electrical receptacle as defined by NATO STANAG 4007? Ill stick a pic in the next post.
 
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ArtyEngineer    Here is what I mean   11/5/2008 7:08:29 PM
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DropBear       11/5/2008 9:08:26 PM
I'm not an expert, however, isn't this the same 12-pin, 24 volt connection as used between primemovers and trailers that our army operate? Isn't it a standardized plug and socket connection that is similar to what you refer?
 
Also, as a sidenote, I believe the proposed Oz Army self-propelled Howitzer (Land 17 Arty replacement project), under the section on firing circuits for example, states a need for STANAG 4368 electrical safety requirements.
 
Therefore, I would assume as a layperson that other NATO STANAG procedures are used here including the 4007 if we indeed require other STANAGs on other platforms and their systems.
 
Does that make sense?
 
Now bring on the SP experts...
 
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Raven22       11/5/2008 9:31:02 PM

Australian military vehicles use NATO standard everything. I'm sure this plug is no different.
 
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gf0012-aust       11/6/2008 12:28:17 AM
All australian military cables and connectors are either US Milspec or NATO standard if not within US Milspec.
 
Where US Milspec rated cables aren't avail, Euro equivs (eg ALCATEL) can be used.
 
NATO ratings can often be identical to US Milspec.
 
We do it for interoperability as well as compliance reasons.

 
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ArtyEngineer    Thanks - Follow up Question   11/10/2008 1:42:04 AM

I suspected that would be your standard power hook up, however do "All" your vehicles have it as standard?  Does the OZ Military have a requirement for all its vehicles to be able to export electrical power to any system which may need it, say a Radion System, a Diagnostic/Maintenance Computer or even a Light Weight 155mm Howitzer with a Digital Fire Control System attached?
 
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gf0012-aust       11/10/2008 2:56:54 AM

I suspected that would be your standard power hook up, however do "All" your vehicles have it as standard?  Does the OZ Military have a requirement for all its vehicles to be able to export electrical power to any system which may need it, say a Radion System, a Diagnostic/Maintenance Computer or even a Light Weight 155mm Howitzer with a Digital Fire Control System attached?



TBF, NFI.
 
I would assume that if it was a requirement then it would be part of the scope of work generated from the RFT.
Priority of systems goes to interoperability issues with our principle partners.
 
Normally the DiagMC or FCS would have specific ports already defined.  If you're talking about "other" DMC or FCS then that would mean a potential port/interface issue as well.  ieg, bus converter for data as well as voltage conversion/inversion/regulation etc....
 
or am I missing a big hint here??
 

 
 
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gf0012-aust       11/10/2008 2:58:24 AM
Arty, email me on bounce dot rubbish at gmail dot com and I'll send you my work email addy.
 
 
 
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ArtyEngineer    gf   11/10/2008 3:22:22 AM

Arty, email me on bounce dot rubbish at gmail dot com and I'll send you my work email addy.

 
Done,
Regarding my power questions, basically it specific to your guys future use of the Triple 7.  What ever the prime mover ends up being for the guns we will develop an integration kit for both power transfer and data transfer into the cab to utilise the Nav and Comm system of the weapon while on the move.  If you go with the FMTV the development works already done. 
 
There are numerous occsions where the prime movers are called away to do "Other Missions".  In this event the ability to recharge the on board batteries from any other vehicle in the vicinity is pretty usefull!!!  Thats the reason for the query.
 
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gf0012-aust       11/10/2008 4:07:39 AM

There are numerous occsions where the prime movers are called away to do "Other Missions".  In this event the ability to recharge the on board batteries from any other vehicle in the vicinity is pretty usefull!!!  Thats the reason for the query.



I can see benefit already with other haulers such as Copperhead and Bushmaster.....  remember the old WW2 Mammoth?
 
 
 
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Volkodav       11/10/2008 4:17:39 AM
I can see benefit already with other haulers such as Copperhead and Bushmaster.....
 
Just what I was thinking, role on the re tender process.
 
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