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Subject: Austal in box seat to build 20 new smaller warships.
hairy man    5/12/2009 7:50:28 PM
Article from: The Australian AUSTAL believes it is in the box seat to win the right to build a new generation of smaller warships designed to revolutionise the way the navy patrols Australia's vast maritime zone. The Rudd Government's new defence white paper will see billions of dollars spent on naval shipbuilding including a new class of "offshore combatant vessels" able to undertake war-fighting, counter-piracy and border protection roles. The Perth-based shipbuilder built the 14 Armidale-class patrol boats now in service with the navy that will be replaced by about 20 of the larger mutli-role vessels of up to 2000 tonnes. Austal just won a second contract to supply a 127-metre vessel for the US Navy's new fleet of high-speed littoral combat ships and hopes their next successful contract will allow them to re-employ 150 staff they recently let go as a result of the economic downturn. Austal chief executive Bob Browning said its Multi-Role Vessel would be perfectly suited to the navy's need for 20 "offshore combatant vessels" which would replace four classes of ships currently in service with the RAN including the Armidale class patrol boats. Mr Browning said Austal's MRVs had open computer systems which could be easily swapped or upgraded for different missions, from border patrol to counter-piracy operations, special forces support or humanitarian relief work. "(There are) pre-configured mission modules that you bring in to the mission bay underneath the flight deck, bolt them down, plug them in to the ship's systems and you can literally convert the ship from anti-submarine warfare to mine detection and removal," he said. The MRV can be built between 88 and 102m in length and has a landing deck for a helicopter or an unmanned aerial vehicle. Austal is currently building a 102m civilian version of the MRV for cars and passengers, but has not yet built one for the military. "We found we can take commercial applications and make them work quite well for the navy," Mr Browning said. That's what happened with the first Littoral Combat Ship Austal built for the US - they had already made a 127m ferry for a Canary Islands business and adapted it for military use. On Friday, Austal won a contract to build a second LCS, the USS Coronado, and is confident of getting at least half the contracts for the 55-strong fleet. It is hoping to cash in on an expected $200-500 million budget expenditure on anti-people smuggling measures.
 
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Volkodav       5/13/2009 8:41:33 AM
Mmmm....Austal, Perth wouldn't be a bad place to live....I wonder....might be time to update my resume.
 
Seriously though, to go for anything other than an MRV derivative would be a real shame. The LCS will stir up a lot of interest but the RAN buying a more down to earth version would set up Austal as a major player in the OPV / Corvette / light frigate market globally, which would in turn subsidise our Naval Ship building industry, increasing the industries ability to support the RAN.
 
BAE, ASC etc will all bid but they will likely do so with foriegn designs limiting any prospects of growing our industry through exports.
 
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gf0012-aust       5/13/2009 8:52:33 AM

Mmmm....Austal, Perth wouldn't be a bad place to live....I wonder....might be time to update my resume.

Had to go to swannie last year for work and I was just flabbergasted at prices.  the driver showed me an old school on the highway that was being subbed up - $1m per block of land!

Seriously though, to go for anything other than an MRV derivative would be a real shame. The LCS will stir up a lot of interest but the RAN buying a more down to earth version would set up Austal as a major player in the OPV / Corvette / light frigate market globally, which would in turn subsidise our Naval Ship building industry, increasing the industries ability to support the RAN.

by the time CDG gets finished with it they'll be migrating from svelte to obese in a few short stakeholder meetings. :) 

BAE, ASC etc will all bid but they will likely do so with foriegn designs limiting any prospects of growing our industry through exports.

we should have learnt that lesson long ago.  considering the absolute hash up that ASC made a few years ago trying to flog off small skimmers to our neighbours, well, one would not be confident.

 

 
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Volkodav       5/13/2009 9:16:00 AM
we should have learnt that lesson long ago.  considering the absolute hash up that ASC made a few years ago trying to flog off small skimmers to our neighbours, well, one would not be confident.
 
Krait?
 
Got to see some of the old tender docs, I got the impression that ASC were bidding for everything in sight to try and keep going pre TLS. As an ex bucket I did like the M-113 upgrade proposal, it looked to be more sensible than the winning Tenix bid and the RWS option was very promising.

My best guess on the allocation of projects....
Austal for 20 evolved MRV's from 2015
BAE (or possibly ASC) for 8 evolved FREMMs from 2020/2025
ASC for 6 EB developed AIP / Diesel / Electric SSG'sfrom 2025, followed by 6 evolved battery only SSG's post 2030.
 
oh and a 4th AWD around 2020.
 
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BLUIE006       5/14/2009 4:09:27 AM
What about the large strategic sea lift ship to move stores, equipment and personnel. Based on a proven design, the new ship will have a displacement of 10,000 - 15,000 tonnes, with landing spots for a number of helicopters and an ability to land vehicles and other cargo without requiring port infrastructure. The new ship will provide ongoing sustainment support for deployed forces, allowing the LHD ships to remain in areas of operations in direct support of the land force ashore. ( seems to suggest that it is for a second wave assault)
 
 Green bit excludes any type of Ro-Ro
 
Bay Class Auxiliary Ship Alternative Landing Ship Logistic (ALSL) = (Landing Ship Dock-LSD) =
(Is 16,200t and seems to tick all the boxes)
 
or
 
 LPD   such as the (Albion Class) Landing Platform Dock (R)
 
 
 
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StevoJH       5/15/2009 5:56:27 AM


What about the large strategic sea lift ship to move stores, equipment and personnel. Based on a proven design, the new ship will have a displacement of 10,000 - 15,000 tonnes, with landing spots for a number of helicopters and an ability to land vehicles and other cargo without requiring port infrastructure. The new ship will provide ongoing sustainment support for deployed forces, allowing the LHD ships to remain in areas of operations in direct support of the land force ashore. ( seems to suggest that it is for a second wave assault)

 

 Green bit excludes any type of Ro-Ro

 

Bay Class Auxiliary Ship Alternative Landing Ship Logistic (ALSL) = (Landing Ship Dock-LSD) =

(Is 16,200t and seems to tick all the boxes)

 

or

 

 LPD   such as the (Albion Class) Landing Platform Dock (R)

 

 


More likely to be a bay then an albion as the Albions have a full Amphibious Warfare Command Center built in, a job that the LHD's are supposed to carry out.
 
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