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Subject: NAVY SEALS VS BRITISH SAS
LJ813    7/1/2005 9:34:17 PM
I WILL GO FOR THE NAVY..
 
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bob the brit       12/3/2009 6:46:29 PM

The SAS is a group of Special Forces Parachutists.

CREF prev. Guess who else doesn't know schitt and get their info on special forces from the internet?  There's nothing wrong with not knowing, but there are a whole pile of reasons why pretending to know does some self harm. 




bugger the internet gf-aust... i'd wager that this info is pulled proverbially out of the author's ar*e.
-85% make it through SAS training
-SEALs use only the latest technology
-etc. etc. etc.
 
I rest my case sir.
 
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Lynstyne       12/4/2009 4:25:01 AM
Guess the 'boat house' has gone then since the SAS only use parachutes or over land - Im also thinking 8 flights gone since Helicopters are also out . 
 But thats almost  forgivable ignorance compared to drivel  such as 85% pass SAS training - not even in ultimate force was that achieved.
 
      the scary thing is the holidays havent even started yet.
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
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bob the brit       12/4/2009 11:16:24 AM

Guess the 'boat house' has gone then since the SAS only use parachutes or over land - Im also thinking 8 flights gone since Helicopters are also out . 

 But thats almost  forgivable ignorance compared to drivel  such as 85% pass SAS training - not even in ultimate force was that achieved.

 

      the scary thing is the holidays havent even started yet.

 

 

 

   

 

 


the boat house is where we kept the parachutes, silly. it was named 'boat' house as a mere ruse to throw off any possible surveillance attempts. its colour, by the way, is sky blue with subtle hints of cloudy grey... appropriate me thinkshttp://www.strategypage.com/CuteSoft_Client/CuteEditor/Images/emwink.gif" align="absMiddle" border="0" alt="" />
 
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gf0012-aust       12/4/2009 4:35:14 PM
as its christmas I assume that every idiot and his progeny will be polluting this thread for another 6+ weeks.

sigh
 
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gf0012-aust       12/4/2009 4:38:38 PM
bugger the internet gf-aust... i'd wager that this info is pulled proverbially out of the author's ar*e.

both are chock full of scatalogical material... :)
 
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LB    Funny Thread   12/5/2009 4:50:36 PM
While everyone has many interesting opinions in my view it would be better to compare US SOCOM to SAS/SBS and conclude that while the US has overall more capability that there are still specific roles and missions where the Brits do as well or better.  There are so many hours in a day.  If the SAS, frex, spend more training focus on surveillance than they might be better in this role.  US Army Special Forces have a focus on training and operating with foreign units and in this role are second to none.
 
It's widely reported that Delta is patterned after the 22nd SAS and are about the same size.  It's difficult to just say SEALS vs SAS.  SEALS are larger with more capability vs SAS having specific areas of reported emphasis.  One doubts anyone with specific knowledge to compare water insertion ability of a typical SEAL unit with an SAS Sabre boat troop and/or SBS unit will be making public quotations.
 
Who wants to argue whether SEAL Team Six, FBI HRT, Delta, or SAS are better at hostage rescue?  If someone I cared about needed rescuing I'd be happy with any of the above world class units.  If anything it says a lot about the Brits that they are often seen as equal or better in many special operation roles and missions compared to the much larger US community and in fact so many techniques are patterned after British experience as well.
 
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YOUGOTYOURASSKICKED       12/19/2009 10:28:19 PM

500 yard swim- No time yet.
2 min. pushups- 101
2 min. sit-ups-81
Pull-ups- 7
1.5 mile run- 9:15

I can also run 4 miles in less than 32 minutes. (25:48)
I am in NJROTC Cougar company.
I am going to be an Officer in the Navy.
Naval Special Warfare.
SEAL Teams.
I live in Anchorage, Alaska.
I am 16 years old.
I will not fail.

 
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Utrinque Paratus       12/26/2009 9:11:52 PM

Are you fucking retarded? SAS have the most physically and metally demanding selection process of any unit in the world. After the demanding physical aspect they then go through the "escape and evade" part of selection, where they need to get to a certain location by a certain time while being persued by a hunter group from the SAS (with only a basic compass and basic hand-drawn map). Even if they manage this they are then all subjected to the interrogation resistance side of the selection where they go through hours and days of stress positions, white noise and interrogations from the hunter team. Only after passing this part of selection will they then go on to the training part of being part of the SAS where they have a year to be reurned back to respective regiments or corps. Navy SEALs on the other hand have the tough pressure of having to

  • At least 6 pull-ups from a dead hang (no time limit) with a competitive count of 11 or more[5][6]
  • Run 1.5 mi (2.4 km) in boots and trousers in under 11:30 with a competitive time of 10:20 or less ( you need 9:30 or less to get into the parachute regiment (before training) ive pulled a 9:01 after sit-ups and push ups)
  • 500 SAS could and would beat 5000 navy SEALs. Look what the para's did in the falklands, they were severely outnumbered by the Argentinian forces but as they were conscripts through concercted efforts from the British armed forces they ended up giving up to a handful of soldiers. The same would happen with the SEALs they are not as well trained or disciplined as the SAS, or the para's or the commando's or the Royal Irish regiment or the scots guards or the welsh guards... the list goes on.

    TBH this is all petty, people eventually end up getting killed no matter how fast you can put on a respirator or iron your shirt. In the end the politicians hold the greatest power.

     
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    Utrinque Paratus       12/26/2009 9:28:17 PM

    If this is the case then why is it that the SEAls are trained by the SAS? and why is it that graduates of westpoint go to Sandhurst for catch-up lessons? And if you knew anything you would know that all soldiers within the British army are always being trained, whether it is qualifications that can be used outside of the forces (all soldiers have this opportunity) or whether it is out on the ranges. And if the SEALs are only trained with the lattest technology then what happens if they lose that equipment behind enemy lines? What then? just because you have superior force or equipment doesnt mean you'll win (look at Stalingrad or even Vietnam) The SAS are trained with a huge variety of weapons, equipment and explosives (going as far as training for driving high ranking people away from ambushes etc). What you are doing here is trying to compare a spanner with a swiss army knife; one can only tighten knuts while the other does this aswell as oipen tins and bottles, sharpen sticks etc etc (i think you know which one is which).

     
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    cwDeici       12/27/2009 11:22:34 AM
    Props and kudos to Urinque (though be careful with language unless someone has used it at you first), the SAS are in fact potentially the best service in the world - though humongous praise goes to SEALS.
     
    Now obviously from Paratus' evidence (though references would be great) SAS is better than SEALs in quite a few areas and have things to teach the SEALS, but I'd wager my silver penny from the American West (no, I don't actually have one but now I think I should buy one so I can say it for realz) that they are better at some things (or tightening nuts if you will). And I'm not saying that out of pity, the SEALS are after all one of the best organizations in the world, even though SAS is clearly better in most areas.
     
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