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Subject: US,UK,AuS Vs China,North Korea,IRan and Russia
BLUIE006    10/29/2006 1:06:22 AM
Imagine this .... World War ..... European NATO for some reason Doesn't get involved..... ONly long time allies the Poms and Aussies help the US ........ Who Would win???
 
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Dark13       11/5/2009 11:52:52 PM
Russia and china ect. would win. If it was to happen now, with our troops spread and our economic status. We have to remember that we are in heavy debt to China, they could crush us by themselves, economically. I would say China would start wanting the debt paid off, slowly weaking our economy, not to mention china has the largest army in the world and Iran has the largest paramilitary in the world. Russia has the most nukes in the world( the U.S.A. does not have over 50% of the world nukes like previously stated) and Russia dropped the largest bomb in recorded history. North Korea would be just added troops and supply routes. We would be fooling ourselfs if we didn't think nukes were going to be used. I see it going somewhat like China starts wanting the U.S. to pay them and when we are in a weakened state, i see China Invading california, and alska along with Russia. I see them taking Hawaii and destorying the militray bases in japan and south korea in the same span. Iran could keep the U.S. and allied troops at bay in the middle east with their huge paramilitary. I can also see Russia sending a nuke towards britian, or a couple, and like wise to the U.S. I give the advantage to them right now, if they attack first on a massive scale. They would win.
 
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DiegoX       2/25/2010 1:54:04 AM
The US alliance would win but it will be very costly due to the share size of the opposing army. Several factors that support my position. 1) Technology  2)Airforce  3)Navy   4) Intelligence
 
The US alliance has far superior weapons and systems over the enemy especially China,Iran and North Korea. Russia has ok technology, but much of it is suffering from years of virtually no funding and low moral of soldiers. In terms of force projection the US and UK are ranked 1 and 2 respectively by most analyst. Force projection is all about being able to carry the fight to your enemy. Both the UK and US have blue water navies, China at present have not. Russia still have some elements of its once awesome Navy, but again, the lack of funding and moral for the last 2/3 decades gives the US alliance a definite advantage in the sea. Without the sea for supplies then the Chinese war machine will be severely hampered. THis is one of the main reasons why Japan lost in WW2; the US destroyed its supply ships.
 
The US alliance will eventually win the air battle as they have missiles, radar, electronic warfare pieces all far superior to China, Iran and North Korea and to a lesser extent Russia. China has a vast military but it has very limited capacity to project all that manpower beyond its borders. China is currently trying to rapidly increase this capability; but it is still far short of being able to pose a formidable threat beyond its borders especially against superior weapons and systems of the US alliance. Given the air being controlled then it is very difficult to win a conventional battle against superior weapons with no air cover; even if you have superior numbers.
 
As for China starving the US through debt, well thats just not practical. I'm in the middle of a war with you and you are requesting me to pay you back money I owe you? Not going to happen!
 
Intelligence will to the US alliance's advantage as I do not think anyone can doubt it should be and this will be very critical in any war. 
 
This war will unlikely be fought over any of the countries listed skies as these countries all have extensive air defence systems. I cannot see anyone brave enough to venture into Russia/ Chinese airspace in particular as the amount of missiles that will be defending it will just be too much. The US and UK will not have such a great need as they will be able to engage most attacking bombers long before they reach their airspace. In the end this conflict will have 3 possible solutions,
 
the US alliance winning and dictating peace terms
 
neither side being able to gain a significant advantage and so a truce is called
 
or the Russian side getting a itchy finger with the nukes
 
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ETFRANKS       9/11/2010 6:43:16 PM
Australia...might be able to defeat Iran, UK could defeat N. Korea, US could take  on China. And with their
remaining power they could take on Russia.
 
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julian    Russia and China would win!!!   2/24/2011 12:24:07 PM

All of you just say that America is going to win because you lot come from the countries that are allied with the U.A.S, 40 countries are allied with the U.S:most of Europe and some countries in America.Plus I don't think U.S will fight the Russians.They hate each other but they are both scared of each other for example the war in Vietnam.It was U.S.A vs Vietnam.The Russians helped the Vietnam and they eventually won the war.Russia vs Afghanistan.The Russians lost unfortunately because the Americans helped the afghans a lot with the armory.The russians almost won the war but the Americans helped the Afghanistan.Now when it a war with U.S.A vs Afghanistan none of us know which country is going to win.Americans waste a lot of money on those lazy soldiers that if Russia will invade they would beat them and that will be when The Americans wouldn't be able to afford more money for soldiers that they will have to surrender.The same with the other countries allied with russia.

If the war will happen the countries will eventually bomb each other.Again Russia will have the advantage.If the Americans will throw the bomb at Moscow it is only going to destroy it and kill 6 million people out of 200.000 million.If the Russians will bomb Washington or miss the bomb will hit oother cities.Washington has a lot of cities surrounding it and only the part of Washington has people living there,the rest is just desert so the Russians have a big advantage.

If the Americans will attack the russians in Russia they might have that kind of war that The Germans had to face 80 years ago when they invaded.I know the Russians will fight anyone and that they can easily crush enemies some how with big army.Plus now one will take Russia,Napoleon,the racist dude called Hitler,not even the most powerfull people in the world managed to win a war against the Russians.So Russians,China,North Korea and Iran will WIN!!!

 
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TheGreatGame    oil....   3/2/2012 7:20:20 PM
If there were to be a war, the 1st battle would be Iran and Israel because, UK is a strong ally with Israel and they would sell them weapons to attack Iran. Now,as Iran is more powerful, and have been in many wars (Gulf war 8years..) they would win. Iran is allies with the 2 main power in Asia China and Russia. Iran could take over the middle east with some help from china (to add more numbers). There fore when Iran takes over the middle east the UK won't be able to get oil, because their main supplyers are from the middle east...
 And since the UK can't do anything without America, America would join in. But heres the clever part from Russia, Russia have ALOT more ships and faster 1's too, they could go from the west point of russia and into Canada.. Now By the time America have realised they are being invaded, Canada, Alaska and all the north areas would be under soviet control! 
If America were too attack china, Nk Could easily  cut off there root, as they have very unique submarines. The UK could make India help them, but India would be destroyed within weeks... 
IF America were too attack from the south they would use Aus because of it vast unused land. If the war were too happen next year american and British forces would be in afgan and iraq so they will lose over thousands of lifes without even a warning. 
In The kind of war it wont be just a few countries, this 7 will be the main powers, there will be hundreds it would be a actual WORLD war. Because, all countries are use to different terrain i.e Aus is use to warm, Russia is use to cold.. so the machinery would be different. But if the east is too win the war they must defend the middle east. Cause that is the heart all the oil and gas and stuff is there, and if they can in long the run the west will have no resources to power there machines.
In the end... Russia will have destoryed America with the help ok Nk China and Iran and maybe even... West Africa.
The UK will surrender because they arent close to the east so they can't afford to waster there fuel
Aus will have hardly any part in this war.
Iran will have grown x13 because it will take over N.Africa and the middle and maybe India or China might already have that.
Then at the end the world will be how its ment to be.. the East with everythign (oil gas better tech.. etc.. etc)
and the West will be 3rd world.
Also this isNOT   a one sided report, i am from UK so i can accept that we aren't the dominate power anymore...
 
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TheGreatGame       3/2/2012 7:22:42 PM
im sorry but Aus beat iran... Aus have nothing
 
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TheGreatGame    reply to DiegoX   3/2/2012 7:25:48 PM
You have mainly base the outcome on Airspace and America... Russia have a more advanced navy and much, MUCH more devastating bombs. America would be crushed by china NK and russia (Iran Would Supply The Oil And Bombs)
 
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Deedmeister       3/5/2012 1:27:16 PM
What's all this about Russia having a far superior navy? They really don't, ever since the collapse of the Soviet Union the Russian Navy (and other branches of their armed forces) has been in rapid deterioration. Russia claims to have 300 ships in service, but less then half are operational, and out of a fleet of 11 strategic missile submarines only 2 are in immediate combat readiness. One more thing, the Russian Navy is a green-water navy (Green-water navies are usually capable of sending their naval ships overseas on friendly port-visits, participating in joint-exercises with other navies and sustaining short-term regional deployments. But usually they either lack the ability for sustained long-distance combat operations or their naval-doctrine does not envisage deployments far away from their home bases.). So the U.K and U.S (I'm taking Australia out of the picture simply because I can't see how they would be able to help.) would claim victory in the naval battles (both are Blue-water navies, and both are the leading naval forces in the world). Air Forces? US and UK would claim victory, hands down, due to the fact they will be able to deploy aircraft carriers all over the world, and their superior aircraft. Ground battles? again, the US and UK would claim victory, China, North Korea, Iran and Russia have superior numbers, however with the better equipment and the better training, and better special forces, US and UK would prevail, and I'm sure you all know, it's quality over quantity (Battle of Britain anyone?).  Of course this is taking nukes out of the equation, with nukes, we all lose.
 
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