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Subject: More reason to fear the brits? Lol
Claymore    10/22/2006 6:14:49 PM
http://www.alertnet.org/db/blogs/1265/2006/09/19-154630-1.htm British arms manufacturer BAE Systems is planning to design 'green' munitions, including lead-free bullets and rockets with reduced toxins, Britain's Times reports. Also in the pipeline are jets, fighting vehicles and artillery without dangerous compounds which can "harm the environment and pose a risk to people," the company is quoted as saying. "Weapons are going to be used and when they are, we try to make them as safe for the user as possible," said Dr Debbie Allen, director of the company's corporate social responsibility. BAE Systems has full support from Britain's Ministry of Defence, which wants to see quieter warheads in order to reduce noise pollution and grenades that produce less smoke.
 
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neutralizer       10/23/2006 5:12:52 AM
Unfortunately it'll take a century to have an effect but that's not a reason for not doing it.  The reality is that far more munitions (at least of some types) are expended in training than in operations, what's more the training munitions are use is in relatively few areas so the concentrations are higher than those that result in war and a spread out battlespace. 
 
Many nations have experienced the challenges and costs of cleaning up former miltary training areas before releasing them for other uses.  This is a well overdue move.
 
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jastayme3       10/23/2006 3:21:18 PM

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British arms manufacturer BAE Systems is planning to design 'green' munitions, including lead-free bullets and rockets with reduced toxins, Britain's Times reports. Also in the pipeline are jets, fighting vehicles and artillery without dangerous compounds which can "harm the environment and pose a risk to people," the company is quoted as saying.

"Weapons are going to be used and when they are, we try to make them as safe for the user as possible," said Dr Debbie Allen, director of the company's corporate social responsibility.

BAE Systems has full support from Britain's Ministry of Defence, which wants to see quieter warheads in order to reduce noise pollution and grenades that produce less smoke.
Isn't that nice, weapons that don't pose a risk to people.




 
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neutralizer       10/24/2006 5:34:52 AM
Unfortunately not.  The holy grail of weapons that do no 'damage' in training and are lethal only to the enemy in war is still a long way off. 
 
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jastayme3       10/26/2006 9:39:12 PM

Unfortunately not.  The holy grail of weapons that do no 'damage' in training and are lethal only to the enemy in war is still a long way off. 


Maybe you can have a death ray that has variable power so that you can reduce it in training and increase it in action.
Oh wait death rays havn't been invented yet.
But when they are I bet they will have a big lawsuit.
 
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lightningtest       10/27/2006 4:49:47 AM
I can hear the lawyers already....
 
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AdamB       11/4/2006 2:50:49 PM
[quote]Isn't that nice, weapons that don't pose a risk to people.[/quote]
 
If you read the link carefully it says that the weapons won't pose a risk to the USER, but obviously they'll still be deadly to the enemy.  They'll also be friendlier on the environment.
 
Just because weapons become "green" and friendly to the environment doesn't mean they aren't dangerous to an enemy soldier.
 
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