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Subject: UK Stem cell fast forward- Genetic engineering humans + animals okayed
Herc the Merc 9/6/2007 4:45:23 PM

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bob the brit 9/6/2007 4:56:43 PM

about time too... those green howards were beginning to fall short of the benchmark (no offense to any howies)

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flamingknives 9/6/2007 5:32:36 PM

Imagine:

Part Squaddie, part human....

;-)

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AdvanceAustralia 9/6/2007 5:37:10 PM

about time too... those green howards were beginning to fall short of the benchmark (no offense to any howies)

"green howards"- any relation to Howard Greens worn as part of Army winter dress?

Cheers.

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Herc the Merc 9/6/2007 5:37:36 PM

UK first country to allow human-animal embryos
7 Sep 2007, 0019 hrs IST

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LONDON: Hindu mythology had its Garuda — a winged, bird-like creature with the body of a man. The Greeks had their mythical race of Centaurs — part-human, part-horse. Britain has potentially brought the stuff of myth and legend into the 21st century by becoming the first country to allow human-animal embryos to be created and used for research.

The embryos, or 'cybrids' as they are known, are banned elsewhere, including the US, Australia and Canada. But the British authorities have bowed to scientists' arguments that they would be invaluable to extract stem cells and find a cure for Alzheimer's, Parkinson's and other serious diseases.

The cybrids will be more than 90% human and less than 1% animal. British scientists want to create the cybrids by using an 'empty' or de-nucleated cow or rabbit cell to fill with an adult human cell. The reconstituted one-cell embryo would be allowed to develop for a few days in the lab. Once it becomes a ball of a hundred or so cells, embryonic stem cells will be derived from it to study genetic diseases and the effects of drugs.

Contrary to the horrified imaginings of many, the cybrid embryos would be destroyed within 14 days, forestalling the possibility of scientists creating a Frankenstein's monster or minotaur from the inter-species hybrids.

Till now, stem cells have been derived only from embryos left over after IVF, but these are in short supply and often of poor quality. An unending supply of cybrids will put an end to that, scientists say.

Thursday's final go-ahead came after Britain's regulatory body, the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority (HEFA) said its lengthy consultation showed the public was overwhelmingly 'at ease' with the idea when told it could pave the way for therapies for conditions such as Alzheimer's disease.

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paul1970 9/6/2007 6:22:48 PM

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you have a point to make or what?

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Herc the Merc Not really its FYI 9/6/2007 6:37:01 PM

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you have a point to make or what?

But if u insist the point is UK started before others--I guess ethical/religous issues are holding others back. Its not that UK has less or more but others are in some sort of debate while u r on ur way o finding a cure for.......xxxxxxxx

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neutralizer 9/7/2007 2:36:40 AM

Oh dear, all the usual tosh being regurgitated. There are actually quite strict rules around what can and cannot be done. However, the real story spoiler is very simple. Genomic DNA is not involved, its only mitochondrial DNA, mitochondria provide energy to a cell they have nothing to do with its genetic and other functions. This reality is, of course, going to be totally ignored by the religious nutters (ie any person of so called 'faith') so expect plenty more nonsense.

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Armchair Private 9/7/2007 12:06:40 PM

eh?

the article above says that its de-nucleated animal cells filled with a human cell (nucleus?). Mitochondria and mitochondrial DNA don't sit in the cell nucleus?

Me no understand...

Then again:

"Hindu mythology had its Garuda — a winged, bird-like creature with the body of a man. The Greeks had their mythical race of Centaurs — part-human, part-horse. Britain has potentially brought the stuff of myth and legend..."

and

"the possibility of scientists creating a Frankenstein's monster or minotaur..."

but

"Contrary to the horrified imaginings of many..."

I'm not sure I can stand reading newspapers anymore, at least deciphering Tiger Tony provides an intellectual challenge.

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tigertony Armchair 9/7/2007 1:37:22 PM

"I'm not sure I can stand reading newspapers anymore, at least deciphering Tiger Tony provides an intellectual challenge."

Well glad to provide you with entertainment. Just happy that someone admits to reading them,even if to insult my grammatical errors. I really am not a bad guy, and i may just be the most arrogant SOB on planet Earth, but i have managed to make it almost 43 years, and still above ground, and not in a padded room,lol.

Have A Nice Day!!!

tigertony

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Herc the Merc Vatican outrage already 9/7/2007 4:43:26 PM

Vatican attacks human hybrids as 'monstrous act against human dignity'

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Bishop Elio Sgreccia said scientists were 'absolutely against morality'

Britain's step towards the creation of human-animal hybrids has been condemned by the Vatican as a "monstrous act against human dignity".

Days after the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority agreed in principle to license experiments for research, the Vatican's Bishop Elio Sgreccia accused the quango of crumbling "when confronted by requests from a group of scientists", who, he said, were "absolutely against morality".

Two teams of scientists hope to be able to create stem cells from their work that could unlock the secrets of Alzheimer's and Parkinson's disease.

The so-called chimeras will be 99 per cent human and one per cent cow, and will be destroyed after 14 days.

A final decision from the HFEA is expected in November.

Bishop Sgreccia said the ruling crossed an important moral rubicon.

"That frontier, of the crossroads of distinct species, has been overstepped with the go-ahead of the British Government," he said.

Catholic leaders in England and Wales have also expressed grave concern.

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