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Subject: UK prepares claim re Antartica territory
EssexBoy    10/17/2007 1:17:49 PM
Just wondering if this is a good idea vis a vis the Falklands: h**p://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7048237.stm The article states that most of the area under consideration is already claimed by both Argentina and Chile, but this still seems provocative. The Argentinians may look at their own depleted forces and decide that it would be better for them to go while we're still tied down in Iraq and Afghanistan, and before the T45s and CVFs come into service (and before the Falklands airspace is defended by Typhoons instead of Tornados). I think we'd be in serious trouble if they were able to spring a surprise and capture our airfield before re-inforcements arrived. Essex
 
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dirtykraut       10/17/2007 9:05:12 PM
As the great Goerge Carlin would say.....GIMME IT IT'S MINE!
 
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paul1970       10/18/2007 3:22:01 AM
you mean the Argies trying to take Falklands again????
 
Argies should stick to claiming what they can on Antartica and worry about whether Chile will contest it since they overlap.
 
only problem would be if Argies and Chille had an arrangement that they tried to squeeze Britain out. but I imagine that Britian would fight as the mineral value will be massive and their claim is based on Falkland and neighboring islands that are closest to the continent.
 
next we will have South Africa claiming parts that Norway currently claim...
 
USA and Russia reserve the right to claim.... but on what basis???
 
Paul
 
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Yimmy       10/18/2007 11:03:26 AM
No Antarctic claims are officially recognised as soverign to anybody by anybody. 
 
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Herald1234       10/19/2007 9:58:31 AM

No Antarctic claims are officially recognised as soverign to anybody by anybody. 

I believe that there is a convention covering this subject.

SCAR conventions.

Herald

 
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Yimmy       10/19/2007 5:07:53 PM
Excuse my laziness in only reading the front page - but that convention was saying that no state owns parts of it right?  And rather treated it as an international interest?


 
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paul1970       10/19/2007 5:18:50 PM
the UK claims part and 7/8 others do...  all these claims are based on controlling land masses close to the area that is claimed....  well beyond normal national waters though???? Aussies claim the most... think I will have to emigrate...  :-)
 
nobody is obliged to accept the claims but the treaty procludes any further claims and it is signed by all the bigies including China... Russia and US got an opt out to make claims later but neither have any land close?
 
Paul
 
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Herald1234       10/19/2007 6:41:09 PM

Excuse my laziness in only reading the front page - but that convention was saying that no state owns parts of it right?  And rather treated it as an international interest?


That is my understanding. Sovereignty issues are International Court of Justice adjudicated.

Herald

 
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maruben    Chilean Reactions   10/25/2007 11:14:19 AM
Naturally Chile has rejected the British claim and decided to reopen its station, Arturo Prat, on the Greenwich Island and send a high level scientific expedition to demostrate that Chile fulfill the Antartic Treaty (1959). From this station other expedition will be sent to explore and research deeper in the white continent. Arturo Prat Station has been closed for 5 years because of the lack of budget, however, the Chilean Goverment has found the way to provide the new funds to operate it for 20 years.
Accoding to Chile, the British claim also violates the Treaty because the it prohibits new territory claims.  
 
 
 
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maruben    Chilean Reactions   10/25/2007 11:36:50 AM


Argies should stick to claiming what they can on Antartica and worry about whether Chile will contest it since they overlap. 
Is my understanding that Argentina and Chile have from 1948 a legal agreement to defend and protect mutually their rights on Antartic Territories, between 25º and 90º. But it is not a military one.
The Chile-Argetina relations are not the most friendly, however it looks as the UK will have to defend their claims again two Nations that have been working for this since 1948.
 
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maruben    Chilean Reactions   10/25/2007 12:08:56 PM


Argies should stick to claiming what they can on Antartica and worry about whether Chile will contest it since they overlap. 
Is my understanding that Argentina and Chile have from 1948 a legal agreement to defend and protect mutually their rights on Antartic Territories, between 25º and 90º. But it is not a military one.
The Chile-Argetina relations are not the most friendly, however it looks as the UK will have to defend their claims again two Nations that have been working for this since 1948.
 
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