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Subject: Pakistan looks like a possible target in the near future!!
trustedsourceofinfo    10/16/2005 2:16:42 AM
The recent media report that the US is considering Pakistan and RSA as possible targets. Ans the way it has been done is similar to Iraq and Iran.Iran is yet to be attacked but that might happen sometime soon. A little news item is released and the debate begins thereafter. Eventually a bill is passed and the authority given to attack the country. This is coming at a time when Pakistan is trying to rebuld itseld hence we do not see any frantic Paki reactions. But,has America realised that Pakistan is actually playing a real double game when it comes to dismantling the terror infrastructure.. What does Pakistan do now..... India on the eastern border and Afghanistan on the western border being totally fed up with Pakistan for promoting terror in these two countries.... WIll they FINALLY produce Bin LAden or Al ZAwahari.....I am actually guessing YES..... Difficult times ahead for the PAki establishment and citizens around the world... http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1592807,00.html Bush told Blair of 'going beyond Iraq' Richard Norton-Taylor Saturday October 15, 2005 The Guardian George Bush told Tony Blair shortly before the invasion of Iraq that he intended to target other countries, including Saudi Arabia, which, he implied, planned to acquire weapons of mass destruction. Mr Bush said he "wanted to go beyond Iraq in dealing with WMD proliferation, mentioning in particular Saudi Arabia, Iran, North Korea, and Pakistan," according to a note of a telephone conversation between the two men on January 30 2003. The note is quoted in the US edition, published next week, of Lawless World, America and the Making and Breaking of Global Rules, by the British international lawyer Philippe Sands. The memo was drawn up by one of the prime minister's foreign policy advisers in Downing Street and passed to the Foreign Office, according to Mr Sands. It is not surprising that Mr Bush referred to Iran and North Korea, or even Pakistan - at the time suspected of spreading nuclear know-how, but now one of America's closest allies in the "war on terror". What is significant is the mention of Saudi Arabia. In Washington, the neo-cons in particular were hostile to the Saudi royal family and did not think they were doing enough to quell Islamist extremists - 15 of the 19 September 11 attackers were Saudis. But the Bush administration did not in public express concern about any Saudi nuclear ambitions. In September 2003, the Guardian reported that Saudi Arabia had embarked on a strategic review that included acquiring nuclear weapons. Until then, the assumption in Washington was that Saudi Arabia was content to remain under the US nuclear umbrella despite the worsening relationship between Riyadh and Washington. It is not clear how Mr Blair responded to Mr Bush's remarks during the telephone conversation, which took place on the eve of a trip to Washington for talks with the US president. In his book, Blair's Wars, John Kampfner says that at the meeting the two leaders "agreed to concentrate not just on Iraq ... but also the Middle East". But that was taken to be a reference to Palestine. Mr Blair wanted Mr Bush to express concern about the plight of the Palestinians to appease the Labour party. Mr Blair at the time was careful to avoid any suggestion that the Bush administration intended to target other countries after the invasion of Iraq. However, for the first time he suggested there were links between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaida. After the invasion, Washington adopted a calmer approach towards Iran, leaving it to Britain, France, and Germany to pursue a diplomatic course. Despite hard evidence that Pakistan was deeply involved in exporting nuclear technology, the Bush administration embraced President Pervez Musharraf as an ally against al-Qaida. Washington's relations with Saudi Arabia remain cool. Mr Sands does not shed further light on the issue.
 
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trustedsourceofinfo    RE:Pakistan looks like a possible target in the near future!!   10/16/2005 2:35:56 AM
WE wont be the only ones celebrating.The entire civilised free world will be celebrating! As an American you too should be proud that by eliminating Pakistani terroristts and nukes America too will be a far safer place !
 
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counterstrike    RE:Pakistan looks like a possible target in the near future!!   10/16/2005 5:57:10 AM
wait, what have u done?
 
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trustedsourceofinfo    RE:To Nileraider and renegade..   10/16/2005 9:27:35 PM
This is utterly suprising! The statement was mde by GEORGE Bush! Why does it have anything to do with India at all to begin with... This is the modus operendi of the American establishment!A little news article followed by sanctions and then military action... Shouldnt the Paki establishment be a little frantic,or the people do not understand the ramifications of this remark? As I said the quake weighs heavy on your minds but subsequently this will catch fire...wait and watch... Or you think America wudnt dare attack Pakistan? Honestly I am quite sick and tired of those two websites over and over again being used as references... indianterrorism and dalistan!Is that all Google comes up with... Now try putting Islam terror Pakistan as your keywords in your Google search... Tell me the difference... But then again-This thread wasnt meant in the Indo-Pak context but more in the US-Pak context... Just ridiculous that No Paki yet on this forum has much to say abt Dubya's remarks.... Shows your obsession with the Indians..doesnt it!!!
 
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HoundOfHello    RE:Pakistan looks like a possible target in the near future!!   10/16/2005 10:08:02 PM
"CHRISTIAN HOLOCAUST THEN VISIT THIS WEBSITE http://indianterrorism.bravepages.com/ ITS A TOTAL NEUTRAL LINK YOU WANT MORE THEN HERE http://indianterrorism.bravepages.com/"-NR Hahaha. The name says it all. It's just another hate site made by pakistanis. That thing's about as neutral as my foot when it sees a fundamentalist. Try again nileraider. And by the way, isn't the nile in Egypt? In denial of your nationality again? Name yourself Indusraider or something. It's more representative of your culture than trying to turn yourself into an Arab. -HoH
 
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IndianRaj    RE:Pakistan looks like a possible target in the near future!!   10/17/2005 2:32:02 AM
You are a fool HoundofHello. When one converts his religion to Islam, he automatically becomes either an Arab, a Persian, or a Turk. It is his own choice. All Pakistanis are Arabs, Persians and Turks. =) Christian missionaries would be treated like Gods if htey went to Pakistan, and the Sikh guy who ordered the storming of the Golden Temple was really a Hindu in disguise!
 
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Root Locus    RE:Pakistan looks like a possible target in the near future!!   10/17/2005 11:09:14 AM
*/he automatically becomes either an Arab, a Persian, or a Turk. It is his own choice. All Pakistanis are Arabs, Persians and Turks. =)/* IR Actually that depends on the global political scenario. First they were descendants of the arabs.After the arabs got their asses whipped by Israel,they became the descendants of turks! And dont be surprised if in future they claim to be the descendants of chinese! hehe ;-) RL
 
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Jatinderpal    RE:Pakistan looks like a possible target in the near future!!   10/17/2005 7:46:56 PM
Renegade Your opinion are those of the intellectually elite wanna be mensa members fromthe finest madrassah of pakistan. Man, get real. Pakistan is a washed up dictatership soon to be split into 4 parts by India. I agree with you though, Pakistan doesn't have to worry about Uncle Sam vaporizing and annihilating it. India will accomplish that long before the US decides to destroy the islamicist muslim terrorists, graduated from the finest pakistani madrassaas. Long live the US. Death to muslim terorists and their sympathizers even if some of them take shelter in the United States.
 
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anuts    Few things to take note of...   10/17/2005 8:44:20 PM
1. http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1592807,00.html The Guardian makes no bones about its official stance on Bush, OIF, and USA. Not so friendly on all accounts and therefore not objective. 2. "The note is quoted in the US edition, published next week, of Lawless World, America and the Making and Breaking of Global Rules, by the British international lawyer Philippe Sands. The memo was drawn up by one of the prime minister's foreign policy advisers in Downing Street and passed to the Foreign Office, according to Mr Sands." Right off the bat, one should see how subjective this whole article will develop. The title of Mr. Sands upcoming book might be a clue as to what points will be picked up and which will be omitted, for example: "It is not clear how Mr Blair responded to Mr Bush's remarks during the conversation,..." Oh, I see. What was clear was what Bush said. I guess Blair's response must have had a bad connection where no one was able to pick it up. Or maybe Blair's response has no context value in this little book project. 3. "Despite hard evidence that Pakistan was deeply involved in exporting nuclear technology, the Bush administration embraced President Pervez Musharraf as an ally against al-Qaida. " Which of course, Pakistan has been lately. It is in their (also any other nation) best interest to choose this option. The US currently is benefiting (although some may say slightly) from this cooperation. At this time I doubt we will put that in jeopardy. All in all, in light of this piece we have here I think Pakistan should be about as worried as it were before this hit.
 
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trustedsourceofinfo    RE:Few things to take note of...   10/18/2005 12:05:18 AM
""Oh, I see. What was clear was what Bush said. I guess Blair's response must have had a bad connection where no one was able to pick it up. Or maybe Blair's response has no context value in this little book project."" --->>LOLOL.Indeed,The response was quite Blurry! ""Which of course, Pakistan has been lately. It is in their (also any other nation) best interest to choose this option. The US currently is benefiting (although some may say slightly) from this cooperation. At this time I doubt we will put that in jeopardy."" --->Its quite apparent that the US is indeed gaining little from this co-operation.But Pakistan has to see it beneficial from their perspective to eliminate Islamic terrorism from their socities!Until then,little will be gained! ""All in all, in light of this piece we have here I think Pakistan should be about as worried as it were before this hit. "" --->I dont think they were ever worried abt this !
 
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