..... I was loosely relating the advertisement to visions of you lot doing 24 hour google foo defending/attacking the Rafale ..... and I'm empathetic because of my recent attachment to the said activity!!! When do you think I ever had time to be playing a MMORG while I was writing book length contributions on here!!!

Anyway, I hope you had a Merry Xmas, Smartarse and I hope the rest of you did too. I'm taking the Hilux Turbo Diesel 4 x 4 dual cab ute that I bought when I was first confronted by that ad and going camping for the next couple of days :-). 

 

 

Damn you and your enormous sunny nation!! 

 

It's not fair at all but have a great New Year, be very careful of crass stereotypes, there's plenty in the outback!

 

R 

It would be nice if you could stop posting your opinion as facts . Would it ever!

Very little of what you say is actually correct . Boy is that true!

Like Halloweene said , you should first read some studies on coupled canard design FROM Dassault and not from any other sources and certainly not from a US source . Saab can also be trusted . Why, they did not say anything that has not been said here first!

Those people are the ones who know I like the way that Dasault states the exact same effects of choices as most others here!

You are wrong on so many basics that it is a disgrace. How would you know, when you have been so very wrong on so many things?

I tell you that in the USA , only Boeing would be able to build a "decent" close couple canard design fighter. Not worth answering! 

Now , whatever you say and whatever you think , the Rafale is a better flyer than the Viper at all the regime you can think of and here again , numbers talk , not me. Then please answer this one specific fact, Which plane, Viper or Rafale can tote FOUR Mk-84s, Four AMRAAMs and FIVE SECONDS worth of Cannon fire farther? Post a link to a Dasault answer! Right?

Everything that favors NOT the Rafale , acceleration in both subsonic and supersonic , better sustained turn rate in both subsonic and supersonic , better instantaneous turn rate at all regimes and altitude , better wing loading , better T/W , better engines (by the way , I found the max sustainable core temp of the M88-2 ECO: What is the permissable Core Temp if the engine must last 6,000 hours between TBOs!

One thing you never talked about Herald , is the fact that the Rafale has the best Flight Control System Worldwide.  Why on Earth would you think this? Since FBW was invented in America and the French System is made, at least in part, under American Patents? The French are known to everbody to make the best FCS and the Rafale was the first fighter to use CDVO (Commande De Vol Optique): Fly-By-Light (as opposed to fly-by-wire). How many DECADES have passed since the first, second and third American Planes flew with FBL, before Rafale's first flight? RIGHT like so many other defects in knowledge you display!

8 times out of 10 , a M2000 (-5 or -9 , up to you) wax a Blk 52/60 in dogfight and 9 times out of 10 a Rafale wax a M2000 in dogfight . Why's this your conclusion ?

Shooter,

 

A bit delayed response, but in fairness to the M88 I wanted to make sure you understand the difference between using hours for an inspection and TACs (total accumulated cycles).  Cycles count the cycling of power on the aircraft (i.e. from burner to idle or vice versa, or some smaller amount) that cause a lot of wear and tear.  How many hours you can get out of it can vary quite a bit - if flying cross country or in a CAS wheel, you may only get a couple cycles over several hours.  If however, you go and do a BFM hop, with you may get 6 or 7 cycles in an hour.

 

Also, the eventual goal for the M88-2 was 1,000 hours time between overhauls. Not sure if they are there yet with the step 4 mod.  The M88-4 is supposed to extend life further.  It's a lot like the initial teething pains the F100-100 went through, which led to the -220's which were a bit heavier but more robust. 

@MK :

 

""Any source for this? I'm aware that Snecma has been working on a turbine which can sustain up to 2100 K, but has this technology been implemented into any M88 variant? ""

 

In all my entire doc on the Rafale , only one paper talk about 2100 C . All the others say 2100 K .

So , I guess it 's a typo error and I go for 2100 C . I will call a friend and try to know more .

 

""Next to the fact that "best FCS" is a bold claim without proper proof, FBL is certainly something I hear about the first time wrt the Rafale! A credible source would be nice, because EVERY source I have seen (including Dassault, AdA, MN...) states FBW!""

 

Only the first prototypes used the FBW . The FBL has been tested later on on a M2000 and implemented on the serie Rafales under the name CDVO (Commandes De Vol Optiques) .