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Subject: First critical element of WW-II fighter plane effectivness?
45-Shooter    1/18/2013 9:22:46 PM
Given that the "typical" WW-II Single engine fighter could be spotted at 1-2 miles, depending on aspect, about half the time, I propose that the smaller the plane, the more effective it will be! Sort of a semi-stealth solution to the "Spotting" problem?
 
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Maratabc       4/13/2013 6:02:05 PM
Devious one, bombwalking is the two air forces same term for the same thing in DAYLIGHT BOMBING. 
 
Also, devious one,  CREEPBACK; which is the term you misuse is the tendency of bombers in succeeding waves to release too early. The USAAF was notorious for this.
 
Bombwalking  was invented by the British in world war one.


 
 



 
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45-Shooter       4/22/2013 11:35:48 PM


Devious one, bombwalking is the two air forces same term for the same thing in DAYLIGHT BOMBING. 

 

Also, devious one,  CREEPBACK; which is the term you misuse is the tendency of bombers in succeeding waves to release too early. The USAAF was notorious for this.

 

Bombwalking  was invented by the British in world war one.




 
 



Then why were RAF Day light bombing attacks so poor? They were criticized because their formations were too loose. To few bombs landed on the specific target. See the pics posted before of the "Synthetic fuel plant"! 3/4-4/5 of all buildings still intact after the raid.

 
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Maratabc       4/23/2013 12:28:20 AM
The simple correct answer  is after 1944 when they did MOST OF THEIR BOMBING, they weren't.


Devious one, bombwalking is the two air forces same term for the same thing in DAYLIGHT BOMBING. 


 


Also, devious one,  CREEPBACK; which is the term you misuse is the tendency of bombers in succeeding waves to release too early. The USAAF was notorious for this.


 


Bombwalking  was invented by the British in world war one.






 
 


Then why were RAF Day light bombing attacks so poor? They were criticized because their formations were too loose. To few bombs landed on the specific target. See the pics posted before of the "Synthetic fuel plant"! 3/4-4/5 of all buildings still intact after the raid.


 
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45-Shooter       4/25/2013 12:22:11 AM
But that is the exact time period that I refer to! Their bombing was atrocious!
Well yes they were terrible!Devious one, bombwalking is the two air forces same term for the same thing in DAYLIGHT BOMBING. 

Then why were RAF Day light bombing attacks so poor? They were criticized because their formations were too loose. To few bombs landed on the specific target. See the pics posted before of the "Synthetic fuel plant"! 3/4-4/5 of all buildings still intact after the raid.
I see still no response to this. Do you need a link to the pictures?



 
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oldbutnotwise       4/25/2013 2:59:06 AM
How do you work that out?
 
All the Bomb survey state that by late 44 the RAF was achiving as good or better accuracy at night than the USAAF was during the day, and that the RAF was superior to the USAAF during daylight missions especially in the close support role
 
and as for your post, please go find the pics of what the RAF did to the factories in the Ruhr, and of Berlin, hamburg, oh the list is long
 
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45-Shooter       4/25/2013 8:56:39 PM

How do you work that out? 
 
All the Bomb survey state that by late 44 the RAF was achiving as good or better accuracy at night than the USAAF was during the day, and that the RAF was superior to the USAAF during daylight missions especially in the close support role
 
and as for your post, please go find the pics of what the RAF did to the factories in the Ruhr, and of Berlin, hamburg, oh the list is long

The pic of the raid I mentioned is posted here among many pictures of RAF bombing prowess. It is of a factory with hundreds of bomb craters around it, but 3/4ths of the buildings are still standing. The report mentions that raid and claims that loose formations prevented the bomb density required to destroy all the buildings. From that picture, it is easy to see the scattered strings of bombs all over the countryside, but few inside the fence and thus why most of the buildings show little or no damage!

 
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Maratabc       4/25/2013 10:08:35 PM
One exception does not prove the rule devious one, just as one crazy Egyptian pilot who was able to split S a Mig 21 within 1000 meters of the ground does not prove it is normally possible. 
 
The rule is what does the average performance show? All those thousands of raid photographs in the MOD archives show good crater coverage of the targets on average. ON AVERAGE.
 
Your exception is meaningless.
 
 
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45-Shooter       4/26/2013 12:21:00 AM

One exception does not prove the rule devious one, just as one crazy Egyptian pilot who was able to split S a Mig 21 within 1000 meters of the ground does not prove it is normally possible. 

The rule is what does the average performance show? All those thousands of raid photographs in the MOD archives show good crater coverage of the targets on average. ON AVERAGE.
Your exception is meaningless.

Really? I was able to pick out four or five from the first set of eight/ten Pictures where the target had spotty coverage at the very best and completely missed at the worst!
But more important than that, those were ALL day light raids!

 
 
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Maratabc       4/26/2013 1:35:43 AM
The best answer is the most truthful... you are a liar.

One exception does not prove the rule devious one, just as one crazy Egyptian pilot who was able to split S a Mig 21 within 1000 meters of the ground does not prove it is normally possible. 


The rule is what does the average performance show? All those thousands of raid photographs in the MOD archives show good crater coverage of the targets on average. ON AVERAGE.
Your exception is meaningless.

Really? I was able to pick out four or five from the first set of eight/ten Pictures where the target had spotty coverage at the very best and completely missed at the worst!
But more important than that, those were ALL day light raids!

 

 
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45-Shooter       4/30/2013 5:11:46 PM

The best answer is the most truthful... you are a liar. No, the best answer is that you are biased and ignorant. Secondly that the "Strategic Bombing Survey" you site now is the same one you blast before. So which is it? The Bumbling half truth work you claimed before, or the word of God that you claim now?
Really? I was able to pick out four or five from the first set of eight/ten Pictures where the target had spotty coverage at the very best and completely missed at the worst!
But more important than that, those were ALL day light raids!

 



 
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