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Subject: Y u all hating on Somalians
Somalian    3/19/2004 6:24:07 AM
Honestly tell me why you lot all hate Somalians, realistically what exactly have they done to you? What threat are they to you? I mean you lot may all be bitter about Black Hawk Down but how many Somalians died in that war when really America should not have gone there in the first place. You Lot are soooooooooo bloody self obsessed and paranoid
 
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Panther    RE:Y u all hating on Somalians   3/19/2004 5:43:25 PM
Less emphasis on just America & more on the U.N. being the bigger player involved back in 93'. I don't feel any lasting animosity toward somalians. I'm very aware of the casualties involved on both sides. We're willing to try to help again, but of course, that will entail the foriegn press being there as well to inflame public passions once again. You can either look at it as round two, or you can look at it as, just trying to do better the next time around!
 
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Sophmore    RE:Y u all hating on Somalians   4/20/2004 8:53:40 PM
i dont thin you understand the context of that war if you think alot of somolians dides becuase of american intervention may i remind you that. 300,000 died of starvation and thousands more were saved becuase we went in and handed out food but we couldnt just give it to the people cuase a bunch of warlords hoarded it and used hunger to crush oposition so we had to go in and make sure our food got to the people we gave it to. a totaly just cuase. the millitary operaions there saved far more that they killed. Ps i dont think anybody hates somolians for MOgadishu but if they do you go to admit when you bite the hand that feeds you your gonna get slaped, now when you murder the guy than drag his body through the streets celebrating your not gonna get fed agian
 
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Owen The Brit    RE:Y u all hating on Somalians   5/14/2004 5:56:38 PM
Somalian. i find it offensive that you think it was wrong of america to try and help. The people were being starved by warlords and america was only trying to help by getting rid of those starving the people. The starvation in somalia was the biggest seen in the past hundred years and your saying it was wrong to try and help!!!!! You sir are an idiot
 
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[email protected]       10/20/2007 8:15:21 PM
firsty i just want to correct you guys, its 'somalis' not 'somalian'.second of all i think the US should have left the 'humanitarian' job to the UN, as it falls under UN jurisdiction and hence avoid fuelling the war... if i may, you dont fight fire with fire.last of all i just want to add, if there is one thing we could all learn from that particular war is that when a country is divided like that its best for foreighn countries to keep out because like the past, history will always repeat itself...I think the somali fighting still exists and i think those US soldiers that fought and died in that war could still be with their families if more time had been taken to probe into the situation in Somalia beforehand.so in effect the question im asking is, did The US really achieve what they had hoped to achieve in somalia, looking at it now????
 
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rb_martin       10/20/2007 10:01:05 PM

firsty i just want to correct you guys,
its 'somalis' not 'somalian'.second of all i think the US should have left the 'humanitarian' job to the UN, as it falls under UN jurisdiction and hence avoid fuelling the war... if i may, you dont fight fire with fire.last of all i just want to add, if there is one thing we could all learn from that particular war is that when a country is divided like that its best for foreighn countries to keep out because like the past, history will always repeat itself...I think the somali fighting still exists and i think those US soldiers that fought and died in that war could still be with their families if more time had been taken to probe into the situation in Somalia beforehand.so in effect the question im asking is, did The US really achieve what they had hoped to achieve in somalia, looking at it now????

The UN peacekeeping force did not seem to be accomplishing their goals. It is true that Americans for the most part do not understand the issues of Somalia, but despite that, American forces were committed to help with the distribution of UN humanitarian aid and providing security for the UN.

"did The US really achieve what they had hoped to achieve in somalia, looking at it now????"

No. If the goals were realized, the ethnic fighting would have been stopped, and the UN would have achieved it's goals. The loss of life that occurred on both sides would not have happened. Somalia would possibly be a more stable country now. It is unfortunate that things turned out as they did; not for the US, but for Somalia specifically, and Africa in general.
 
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shmity1212       11/3/2008 11:39:41 PM
you fucking somialins come to minnesota and tack our money you smell like shit you think you god but all you are is peices of shit from the nigger continet of africa
 
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Photon       12/5/2008 3:46:45 AM
If stopping tribal warfare is the main goal, then the most straightforward method (but politically very incorrect) is to isolate Somalia, cut off all food, supplies and money, shoot anyone who crosses Somali borders, and let the tribal warlords play out  among themselves until there is only one left and everyone else is eliminated from the gene pool.
 
The critical requirement is that they must be cut off from the rest of the world.  In a typical multi-tribal warfare, the contenders will likely to have two or more foreign powers handing out money, food, supplies and guns.  Having access to external economy results in perpetual bloody stalemate.  (Ideal environment for tribal warlords and their foreign backers.)
 
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jastayme3       4/15/2009 5:21:40 PM

Well honestly, that is how tribal warfare works in Somalia, and if you think Westerners are completely different simply
because they have more money you are being odd. Somalians don't like having their folks attacked either, especially when they are bringing food for the hungry.
 
But honestly I don't hate Somalians. I don't even hate pirates. Simply because hating would be a waste of emotion. I do think they are a nuisance that has to be dealt with, and I find Westerners who won't except that annoying.
 
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zoso    I hate somalis   11/18/2009 1:41:51 PM
This is why I hate somalis and Moosies in general:
 
 

Somali woman stoned for adultery
 
 

A 20-year-old woman divorcee accused of committing adultery in Somalia has been stoned to death by Islamists in front of a crowd of about 200 people.

A judge working for the militant group al-Shabab said she had had an affair with an unmarried 29-year-old man.

He said she gave birth to a still-born baby and was found guilty of adultery. Her boyfriend was given 100 lashes.

It is thought to be the second time a woman has been stoned to death for adultery by al-Shabab.

The group controls large swathes of southern Somalia where they have imposed a strict interpretation of Islamic law which has been unpopular with many Somalis.

'Lenient'

According to reports from a small village near the town of Wajid, 250 miles (400km) north-west of the capital, Mogadishu, the woman was taken to the public grounds where she was buried up to her waist.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46749000/jpg/_46749545_somalia226afp.jpg" alt="Somali Islamist fighters" vspace="0" width="226" border="0" height="170" hspace="0" />
The Islamists want to impose a strict version of Sharia on Somalia

She was then stoned to death in front of the crowds on Tuesday afternoon.

The judge, Sheikh Ibrahim Abdirahman, said her unmarried boyfriend was given 100 lashes at the same venue.

Under al-Shabab's interpretation of Sharia law, anyone who has ever been married - even a divorcee - who has an affair is liable to be found guilty of adultery, punishable by stoning to death.

An unmarried person who has sex before marriage is liable to be given 100 lashes.

BBC East Africa correspondent Will Ross says the stoning is at least the fourth for adultery in Somalia over the last year.

Earlier this month, a man was stoned to death for adultery in the port town of Merka, south of Mogadishu.

His pregnant girlfriend was spared, until she gives birth.

A girl was stoned to death for adultery in the southern town of Kismayo last year. Human rights groups said she was 13 years old and had been raped, but the Islamists said she was older and had been married.

Last month, two men were stoned to death in Merka after being accused of spying.

President Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed, a moderate Islamist, was sworn in as president after UN-brokered peace talks in January.

Although he says he also wants to implement Sharia, al-Shabab says his version of Islamic law would be too lenient.

The country has not had a functioning national government for 18 years.
 
stupid primitive ass retards, this is why Muslims will continue to live in squalor, violence and depravity!
 
 
 
 
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flyingarty    Islam   11/19/2009 7:45:35 AM
Fundamental Islam is fast on the way to being the world's pariah religion. Most military peope I have talked to only want to go back to the Mog for one thing, to nuke it!
 
As for the pirates:
 

Time to take a hard line on piracy

 

 

 

So the Somali pirates have vowed retribution against the United States for rescuing Sea Captain Phillips. The pirates have promised murder and extortion on the high seas.  Well frankly, it?s time to take the fight to them. The men and women who make their earning on the sea already have a very demanding and dangerous job. Their country owes them protection from actions such as piracy. America is in a deep economic slump, and the actions of pirates will eventually drive up the cost of goods for the consumer if not checked.

 

Frankly, it?s a big ocean. It?s a very, very big ocean.  Patrolling it is a very time consuming and expensive undertaking. The same could be said of creating convoys there?s nothing stopping the pirates from waiting until the escort leaves, and then continuing with piracy. There is the idea of arming the ships and turn the sailors into soldiers or providing a security detail, but this again is expensive.

 

These are all reactive approaches that cost time and money and maybe only partially effective to very ineffective. A better idea is to be proactive.

 

First let me say that being proactive means actively seeking to kill pirates. Dead pirates do not plunder, and you only have to kill them once as opposed to arresting them.  This proactive approach can be done with a multi pronged attack.

 

The most important aspect of the proactive approach is good intelligence. The US needs a good spy network to locate pirate basis, pirate ships/boats, and the pirates them selves.

 

Phase 1) Accurate and timely intelligence is vital. This can not be emphasized any stronger. The US

 
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