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Subject: Muslims ARE the enemy
Trojan horse    3/18/2002 5:42:24 AM
The thing about power is some people have it and some people don't. That is what it is all about. How do you get power? By doing what others are afraid to do. They know they couldn't do what you do and they accept that you have that power over them. It is PLAIN to them that they can not accomplish what you can accomplish. Leaders are leaders for precisely that reason. In the world today the United States is not only a world power...but she is the ONLY Super-power. She shares that status with Britain because Britain is UNQUESTIONably a true friend..not just an Ally... a friend. Germany and France are simply Allies. What is the power structure of the world going to be like in twenty or in fifty years. Is Germany going to be any more powerful than she is..is France? But Britain and the United States...two brothers who stand above all other nations on Earth. Power. And you only get it by taking it. The United States is going to win. And when we do win...where will you be? Don't be in the corner. And you will be in the corner if you stay on the sidelines. France is not a world leader. Germany is an oompah-pah. Britain is a player and she will also be a winner. Britain and her traditions and high value for Law and Justice., real justice are unique in the world. America tries to measure up to the standard Britain sets. For dynamism and frankness and creativity, few , if any can compare to the United States. Britain once had an Empire, and a fine one it was. America is building an empire..but it doesn’t fit well all the time. But the world could do a lot worse than the models of America and Britain. It could have been Nazi Germany. It could have been the Stalinists. Thank god for your grandfather and his ability to slog and punch and sacrifice. That man saved us all. It is fashionable for intellectuals in this day and age to criticize the West and its values. Intellectuals and liberals criticize how we got here. Well, to give them a point or two, sometimes it wasn’t very pretty or honorable. So what else is new? Human nature being what it is we are lucky to have done as well as we have. Say a prayer and mean it. There is a new challenge out there today and it means business. They will kill us if they can. They have made that patently and obviously plain. They mean to kill us. They mean to kill our civilization and our values. They believe that everything the West has constructed, conducted, and conceived is bloated, sick and wrong. They have another model…it is called Islam. They use our own values against us when they can..and there are a lot of weak people who call themselves intellectuals who do not put up much of a struggle. The Islamist is our enemy. Pure and simple we can not come to an accommodation with him. We can not live together in the same world. He means to see us dead.His sense of Justice uses our sense of Justice to damn us to hell. The word.”imperialist” is no longer reserved for the explicitly exspansionst aspirations of a Saddam Hussein, an Idi Amin, or Sudan’s Al Bashir…but for the supposedly coercive practices implicit in normal global trade. We are prosperous therefore we are damned. Envy and hatred replace hard work in Islamist justice. And while the West is damned for its building a better life for all its classes and for its freedoms the Third World is praised in shameless disregard for its harsh and brutal rulers. The model of the Taliban is held up as TRUE ISLAM. The corrupt and venal Saudis are the protectors of all righteousness. They also are held up as a model of what Islam really means. Take a good look at Saudi. Osama Bin Laden commanded in his 1998 fatwa to”kill Americans and their allies…civilian and military..as an individual DUTY for every MUSLIM”. Every American, the old, the young, the women and the children…all Americans. And it is becoming increasingly plain that while most Muslims do not openly support his speeches…they express sympathy for his cause. A great many people lack the moral courage to respond to this threat…to see plainly what they have to do if they want to survive. Many weak kneed people whine and apologise for the acts of the Palestinians, for example. They accept moral relativism and don’t see that to do so allows the enemy to crouch closer to their own families. If a Palestinian will kill Jewish children…he will kill your children also. It is very simple, these people need to be eliminated permanently. They will kill you and your children. The Palestinians are a threat to everyone. We need to face the facts and accept the truth…we are going to have to defend ourselves or die. And anyone who gets in our way is a threat to our survival. Anyone who falters or cringes or backs away from the necessary shedding of blood is a coward and a traitor. In combat we can not afford to allow such people to endanger our lives. We need to proceed without remorse. We have to drive the knife in up to the hilt and twist it hard, and lean on it. We need to do it a
 
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Jeff from Michigan    RE:Muslims ARE the enemy   3/18/2002 9:00:45 PM
Yawn We have heard it all before. Snore.
 
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Jeff from Michigan    To Trojan Horse - Please accept my apology   3/20/2002 2:34:43 AM
Trojan, I apologize for being so short and dismissive of your post. It is obvious that you put a lot of heartfelt thought and effort into the post. I disagree with your conclusions and I would direct to the Eternal Wars, India Pakistan and Terrorism boards for the debate why. Normally I don't get so sarcastic but I was responding to another post and it effects spilled over to your post. Sorry.
 
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USMCwAnnAbE    RE:Muslims ARE the enemy   11/12/2002 5:22:41 PM
~Tear~ "Roaring Applause" That was beautiful man. I will follow you into battle any day. I ship out for Marine boot in August, 2003. I hope to see you soon. If more people thought like we do then this world would be a lot better off.
 
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Elbandeedo    RE:Muslims ARE the enemy -yup   12/12/2002 6:51:58 AM
Thank 'political correctness' and 'multi-culturism' for forcing us to tell the 'big lie' - that islam isn't evil, it's just a handful... of thousands!! Nice, well thougt out post Trojan. E.
 
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American Kafir    RE:Muslims ARE the enemy    1/10/2003 6:05:16 AM
Hooo-ahhh!
 
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ChrisWI    RE:Muslims ARE the enemy    3/30/2003 3:57:59 PM
Id follow u into hell to defend my freedom
 
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soctsjon    RE:Muslims ARE the enemy    4/23/2005 11:24:27 AM
Saddam is the alternative, Islamist values are the alternative.You want to stay alive?<<<<<< I think this sums up your post and your frankly flawed thought process! Saddam was secular (spelling?)....now in case you dont understand that means he ran the country by paying lip service to religion.....Islam is not the enemy, and the thought that all muslims want to turn the world islamic is a joke!!....you just have to look at history and the former Islamic Empire, a society which for example held freedom of religion as a core belief (as in fact does islam). Of course there are nutters out there, there allways are! but dont let fox news drag you into a world in which you become incapable of questioning what your own goverment says. Everything you said about islam could be reversed and twisted to say the exact same thing about any religion! its just the enemy your *told* is at the gate right now are muslims....if a Jewish soldier can kill a muslim child he can kill yours.....see what i mean!
 
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swhitebull    RE:Muslims ARE the enemy    4/23/2005 11:56:51 AM
...if a Jewish soldier can kill a muslim child he can kill yours.....see what i mean!... Actually, i dont. What a racist comment of your own to make. The point is , Jews and Christians dont have a Holy book that makes eradicating the infidel a core tenet of its philosophy, steal $20 from someone, kill him, then rape his wife. ISLAM DOES. Its called the Quran. A religion that justifies pedophilia and child rape. What a sick f-ck the prophet was to have intercourse with a 9 year old little girl. What's the matter, couldnt get it up with a real woman? The michael jackson of his times. Deal with it. swhitebull
 
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ret13f    RE:Muslims ARE the enemy    4/23/2005 1:34:11 PM
"...an individual, who has accepted Islam is incapable of living and dying for another ideal after the fact." "There can be not peace or coexistence between the 'Islamic faith' and non-Islamic societies and political institutions. ..Islam clearly excludes the right and possibility of activity of any strange ideology on its own turf." "...the Islamic movement should and must start taking over the power as soon as it is morally and numerically strong enough to not only overthrow the existing non-Islamic, but also to build up a new Islamic authority." Above quotes from Alija Izetbegovic. "Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Musllim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, an Islam the only accepted religion on Earth." Omar M. Ahmad, chairman of the board, CAIR Sure, all moslems are not our enemy, just as all germans were not our enemy. However many are, and just as the NAZIs dragged millions of Germans into war (and destruction & defeat), so will those Islamist such as those above drag millions of moslems to the same fate.
 
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