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Subject: Why commies are evil? This is why.
YelliChink    2/22/2008 7:52:11 PM
Just read a news in some Chinese news source. It's Beijing Olympics, and what do BPD (Beijing Police Department) do? They put more emphasis on cracking down "illegal dewellers" who don't have official documents to allow them live and work in Beijing. WTF do Chinese citizens need formal document to prove their are "legal" residents of Beijing? It's like Michael Bloomberg enacts a law to issue none NYC residents permit to work and live in NYC. That's total ballcrap! This is how commies treat Chinese citizens, and this is the beginning of this thread.
 
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Softwar       2/22/2008 8:55:10 PM
As we have pointed out to many others the people who suffer the most from the PRC government oppression are the Chinese people themselves.  While other nations may be victim to the PRC aggression - the Chinese people are held captive as slaves in the chains of communist tyranny.
 
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flamingknives       2/24/2008 1:16:51 PM
What's a green card?
 
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DNS77       2/24/2008 11:31:04 PM
A indentification card for an alien in the US.
Not sure if you can equate the two. I read the story as a crackdown on Chinese residents unless I am missing something here.
 
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Herald12345       2/24/2008 11:35:24 PM

What's a green card?

It allows a legal alien to reside in the United States. It doesn't deny him or her work or restrict him or  her place of dwelling choice or right to travel within our nation.

What's your point?

Herald
 
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YelliChink       2/25/2008 7:53:50 AM
Commies own banks in China, and forbid Chinese people run privately owned banks. However, they have to open banking business to foreigners under WTO regulation. That's great, foreigners have more right to Chinese people in China thanks to commies' discriminating policy.
 
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flamingknives       2/25/2008 2:30:01 PM
DNS77, I'm not sure if you can equate the two, either, but I'm not sure that it's quite so fundamentally different, either.

I understand that some areas of the US still have vagrancy laws (is that the right term?) to dissuade the influx of undesirable (i.e. no money) elements.

The UK has restrictions on new housing - de facto limits on new population if they care to use them in that fashion.

While it may be that the ruling Chinese are using this as a tool of oppression, on the face of it it might be a way of looking out for the welfare of people. Given the fairly steep changes of wealth between regions in China, it seems sensible to restrict flow of people to already populous areas where there might not be sufficient infrastructure to support them.  To avoid slums and shanty towns, seemingly draconian measures might be necessary.

There's certainly a slew of examples of how the communists are evil, but I'm not convinced that this is one of them.
 
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Herald12345       2/25/2008 2:38:51 PM

DNS77, I'm not sure if you can equate the two, either, but I'm not sure that it's quite so fundamentally different, either.

I understand that some areas of the US still have vagrancy laws (is that the right term?) to dissuade the influx of undesirable (i.e. no money) elements.

The UK has restrictions on new housing - de facto limits on new population if they care to use them in that fashion.

While it may be that the ruling Chinese are using this as a tool of oppression, on the face of it it might be a way of looking out for the welfare of people. Given the fairly steep changes of wealth between regions in China, it seems sensible to restrict flow of people to already populous areas where there might not be sufficient infrastructure to support them.  To avoid slums and shanty towns, seemingly draconian measures might be necessary.

There's certainly a slew of examples of how the communists are evil, but I'm not convinced that this is one of them.
It is against the US Constitution to issue internal passports. THAT is a vast  difference  between US and the PRC bandits.

We have rule of law as opposed to the rule of scum.

Herald
 
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Photon       2/25/2008 3:18:53 PM
I think this sort of 'residency permit' is endemic to police states with substandard social safety net for its poorer citizens.  The Russians pretty much have tried the same during their glorious Soviet era, as a means to prevent their poorer rural population from flocking into the cities where jobs and living conditions were better.  After all, covering up serious social problems with administrative methods has considerably more appeal to the top brasses in charge.
 
Anyway ....
 
For a regime that puts churches under tight leash, carries out an ASAT test in a heavily trafficked level of the orbit unshamefully, engages in cyberwars which should be treated as an act of war, has no regard for the concept of intellectual properties, imposing its citizens with residency permit is not going to be a bid deal.
 
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flamingknives       2/25/2008 4:31:27 PM
It is against the US Constitution to issue internal passports. THAT is a vast  difference  between US and the PRC bandits. 

But it is permissable to arrest someone on the basis of their having no money on them, AIUI?
There are better examples of the failure of communism to achieve its stated aims than this attempt to prevent mass migration into an area with insufficient employment and insufficient infrastructure to support them.

Incidently, could someone enlighten me on the state of play regarding living in US national parks and Indian reservations?
 
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Herald12345       2/25/2008 4:53:14 PM

It is against the US Constitution to issue internal passports. THAT is a vast  difference  between US and the PRC bandits. 

But it is permissable to arrest someone on the basis of their having no money on them, AIUI?
There are better examples of the failure of communism to achieve its stated aims than this attempt to prevent mass migration into an area with insufficient employment and insufficient infrastructure to support them.

Incidently, could someone enlighten me on the state of play regarding living in US national parks and Indian reservations?
What is so hard to understand here? What has vagrancy to do with internal passports? You could be a US citizen and still be a bum and so we arrest you..

On another point, what do you use for logic, FK? What has the issue of US Native Americans got to do with the wholesale enslavement of the Chinese people by a fascist police state erected by an oligarchy of "communist" thieves and powermongers who are in reality, bandits?

You want to know how well Native Americans can do?

Ben Nighthorse Campbell

How about Asian-Americans?

Daniel K. Inouye.

or how well we treat the average US citizen in the National Park? We protect Grizzly bears from them.

Yellowstone National Park

If you are an invader, these days, expect to be stamped flat though.

Powderkeg 1.

Powderkeg 2.

Powderkeg 3.

In the United States, all politics is local.  The people are fed up.

Now what was your point, again?

Herald
 
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