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Subject: Good article on Rise of China
earlm    4/13/2008 12:35:49 PM
It is inevitable and we should be looking at ways to deal with them as they increase in relative strength and we decrease. h*tp://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=559133&in_page_id=1811 Cecil Rhodes, the businessman-imperialist of Africa, the creator of Rhodesia, suffered no flicker of doubt about who were the masters. "To be born an Englishman," he mused, "Is to win first prize in the lottery of life." It wasn't idle boasting. In the jingoistic triumphalism of the late 19th century, when waving the Union Jack was a simple pleasure, people sang: "Rule Britannia! Britannia, rule the waves" without any irony. It was a statement of fact. A quarter of mankind lived under the British flag in the largest empire the world had ever known. And many of those parts that weren't under Britain's rule - such as the U.S. - had been created by Britain. British missionaries had opened up the Dark Continent almost unchallenged. Scroll down for more ... chinese factory Eastern promise: Chinese factory workers line up for their morning roll call Enlarge the image The British Army found it easier to invade troublesome nations - or most of them - than it does nowadays. Britain was the workshop of the world, dominating science, manufacturing and trade. To many Victorians, unquestioning of the ideology that underpinned much imperialism, British supremacy was a simple matter of racial supremacy - Europeans, and the English in particular, were fated to be the masters. The truth is that we are masters of the world no more. The global power shift from the West to the East is no longer just a matter of debate confined to learned journals and newspaper columns - it is a reality that is beginning to have a huge impact on our daily lives. What would those Victorian masters of old have made of the fact that Chinese security men were on the streets of London this week, ordering our own police about and fighting running battles with British protesters while bewildered athletes carried the Olympic torch on its relay through the capital? It was a brazen display of how confident China has become of its new place in the world, just as the British Government's failure to take a firm stand on Chinese abuses of human rights shows how craven we have become. The dire warnings from the International Monetary Fund this week that the West now faces the largest financial shock since the Great Depression, while the Asian economies are still powering ahead, simply underlines our vulnerability in this new world order. The desperately weakened American dollar appears to be on the verge of losing its global dominance, in the same way as sterling lost it a lifetime ago. The credit crunch has brought home to all of us in Britain how over-reliant our country has become on financial services. Meanwhile, the loss of our manufacturing industries to Asia continues unabated. Last month, an Indian company, Tata, bought up what was once the cream of British manufacturing - Jaguar and Land Rover. A couple of years ago, Nanjing Automotive, a Chinese company, snapped up MG Rover. Just as the 19th century was the British century, and the 20th century was the American century, the 21st century is the Asian century. But the handover of global power from the UK to the U.S. was trivial compared to what is happening now. The U.S. was Britain's offspring, based on the same values and the same language. Scroll down for more ... Denise Lewis Olympic torch men in blue The boys in blue: Chinese security men escorting the Olympic torch on the streets of London last weekend. Many were shocked by their heavy-handed tactics It, too, was an Anglo-Saxon country, and passing the baton across the Atlantic ensured the continuation of the Anglo-Saxon world order, based on democracy, free trade and a belief in human rights, upheld through international institutions that both powers supported. But the world order we have grown used to - and comfortable with - over the last century is coming to an end. Napoleon III compared China to a sleeping giant and warned: "When China awakes, she will shake the world." After a long hibernation, China, and her 1.3 billion people - twice the population of the U.S. and EU combined - is awaking almost overnight. And not just China. The world's second most populous country, India, is industrialising at a historically unprecedented pace. Their economies are growing on a long-term basis about four times the speed of the UK's and that of the United States. Goldman Sachs, the bank, recently predicted that by 2050, China and India would have overtaken the U.S. to be the world's first and second biggest economies. We have long heard about the benefits this brings, in terms of plentiful cheap goods from toys to TVs, and huge opportunities for Western companies to sell their wares in these booming markets. But there are also d
 
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xylene       4/13/2008 2:34:37 PM
Belief in free market religion is the West's achilles heel and will be the seeds of it's own downfall. The rise of the Far East is inevitable but it has been and is exacerbated by a 5th column of western bankers, corporations, and politicians. These traitors have made what would have been a half century to century evolution to scream along at it's current pace.
 
What those sad intellectuals don't understand is that there will be no place for them once China gets everything it wants. They think they can outsource and crap on American workers , move businesses to China, and they will have a seat at the table once it's time to start reaping the benefits of billion Chinese consumers. They do not understand they will be left out or kicked out. China sees this as their chance to take their rightfull place and there will no power sharing.
 
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tigertony    X-Man   4/13/2008 6:13:16 PM

Belief in free market religion is the West's achilles heel and will be the seeds of it's own downfall. The rise of the Far East is inevitable but it has been and is exacerbated by a 5th column of western bankers, corporations, and politicians. These traitors have made what would have been a half century to century evolution to scream along at it's current pace.

 

What those sad intellectuals don't understand is that there will be no place for them once China gets everything it wants. They think they can outsource and crap on American workers , move businesses to China, and they will have a seat at the table once it's time to start reaping the benefits of billion Chinese consumers. They do not understand they will be left out or kicked out. China sees this as their chance to take their rightfull place and there will no power sharing.

 
 
1}  Well now X how do you know that they are not part of NWO,NWC,or MIC? AKA: New World Order,New World Corporation,or Military Industrial Complex. Afterall,CCP and its level of corruption is on pace with our own!.
 
 
2} Well now you have this one backwards X. The USA is buying goods made by them billion Chinese who would be unemployed and pissed off at CCP instead!. I wonder what will happen when those CCP cargo vessels are sunk or turned away from the USA and EU if they F*** with us,or a 1,000,000,000,000 plus interest is pissed away?
 
 
 So who needs who more for their own well being?  I guess it would be more humane for the poor people of China to all be unemployed like North Korea?. I do not believe in giving a hand out to CCP,they should have to earn it,and they are not!.
 
 
 Now instead of pissing and moaning about China, lets hear what you would do better, and not start WW3, or have CCP being forced to slaughter millions armed only with a pitchfork? It is easy to say alot, untill your ass is in that meat grinder!.
                                                                            tigertony
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan       4/14/2008 12:08:52 AM
 
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xylene    Tigertony   4/14/2008 12:21:19 AM
Sad thing is nothing short of a massive war, economic dislocation, or unprecidented natural calamaty can stop the current trends. It's really not about China's rise, it's more about the West's loss of influence and power. That leverage is not being taken by force by China, it's being freely given away by the West's own esteemed business community and politicians.
 
What would I do differently? For one I would repeal MFN and start hitting China imports with tariffs. They have been allowed to flood our market for years plus given tacit approval to declare the value of their own currency. Make it to where goods are cheaper to produce here than over there. If some Americans get mad because they need to pay more for toys at Wal-Mart, so be it, that is the price of not having to approach China with your begging bowl.
 
Better to take on the China beast now than in 10 years from now.
 
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