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Subject: India To Buy US Smart Bombs
Softwar    6/21/2007 8:40:48 AM
http://in.news.yahoo.com/070621/43/6h806.html India set to acquire precision bomb technology By IANS Thursday June 21, 01:13 PM Paris, June 21 (IANS) India's state-run Ordnance Factory Board (OFB) is negotiating the acquisition of precision bomb technology from US arms major Raytheon. Ben Ford, senior manager of Raytheon Missile Systems, told IANS at the ongoing Paris Air Show that the company was in discussions to transfer the technology for the Enhanced Paveway-II Dual Mode GPS/Laser Guided Bombs to the OFB for their indigenous manufacture in India for use by the Indian Air Force (IAF). Procedural clearance from the US government should be available, he added. The Paveway, initially developed in 1964, is a standard US Air Force weapon with varying loads for attacking fixed or moving targets. Thanks to its new Global Positioning System (GPS) and laser guidance capability, it can now be dropped exactly as required on a target with an error margin of less than four feet. During the 1999 Kargil War, the IAF had to make last minute imports of laser guidance kits to bomb Pakistani positions inside Indian territory and two aircraft had to be used to designate and hit any target. With both the GPS and laser technologies now available on the same bomb, a strike mission could be mounted with less deployment and without any collateral damage. The IAF's last two chiefs, Air Chief Marshals S. Krishnaswamy and S.P. Tyagi, had emphasised the need for acquiring precision bomb technology. Ford said that Raytheon had supplied some Paveway bombs to India about 10 years ago but now the discussions were about transfer of technology (TOT) 'of this very potent weapon'. It can be launched from the Jaguar, Mirage 2000 or other IAF jets in any weather condition, and at day or night. He said that Raytheon had supplied more than 250,000 Paveway variants to the US and other countries and some 50,000 of these had used in battle, most recently in Iraq. The unique dual mode capability of the Paveway-II offered precision and flexibility 'not available with any other system at present', Ford pointed out.
 
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Herc the Merc    Softwar --u need to do more homework   6/21/2007 12:58:10 PM
The Paveway-2 was based on a 1964 design--some dual mode thing now. Its ok against Pakistan of today but it can be very easily misguided electronically by likes of China. Its soon to be obsolete technology. No biggie here.
 
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Softwar    Cheeseburgler   6/21/2007 1:11:12 PM

The Paveway-2 was based on a 1964 design--some dual mode thing now. Its ok against Pakistan of today but it can be very easily misguided electronically by likes of China. Its soon to be obsolete technology. No biggie here.



Is this based on your technical experience as a radar/stealth materials engineer, radar engineer, software engineer, banker or chemist?  Which profession do you mis-represent today?  Liar.  Liar.  Talk about "misguided electronically"....
 
Gee they even made it easy for you to do your vast research on the subject of air to surface weaponry by telling you it was first introduced in "1964".  I wonder how easy it will be to jam with the crypto GPS electronics, and INS attached.
 
Perhaps you might have picked something up in MacDonalds when you were busing the tables?  Do fill us in on the details oh expert of all things.
 
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Herc the Merc    Here Softie no researchee   6/21/2007 1:31:37 PM
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Besides it can be misguided by smoke and clouds since its laser guided. Paveway 3 is already out.
 

India looking for old precsion bomb technology from Raytheon?
Kiran Chaube
Jun. 21, 2007

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The technology was developed and refined since 1964. India plans to acquire precision laser guided bomb technology from America.

However, the technology may ne old and obsolete. India's state-run Ordnance Factory Board (OFB) is negotiating the acquisition of precision bomb technology from US arms major Raytheon.

The unique dual mode capability of the Paveway-II offered precision and flexibility not available with any other system at present. But according to some analysts, India may be making a big mistake acquiring technologies that is being tabled. India needs to look at China instead of just trying contain Pakistan.

In Kargil war type scenario, Paveway-II will be ideal. But when the enemy is sophisticated and has means to misguide Paveway-II, Indian Air Force will be at a loss.
 
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Softwar    Smoke Gets in Your Eyes   6/21/2007 1:35:24 PM

Besides it can be misguided by smoke and clouds since its laser guided. Paveway 3 is already out.

Guess you missed the part about "dual" guidance - e.g. GPS and INS onboard.
 
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Herc the Merc    not in Paveway 2.   6/21/2007 1:36:58 PM
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Herc the Merc    Here is what the Brits get   6/21/2007 1:38:30 PM
 Raytheon submitted a proposal for the SDB program but didn't make the finals. However, the company is proposing a new GPS-aided smart bomb system for the international market. The company's "Paveway IV" system is essentially Paveway III LGB components, with the laser seeker augmented by a GPS-aided INS. Paveway IV kits can be provided for weapons from 112 to 900 kilograms (250 to 2,000 pounds). The British Royal Air Force has ordered the weapon, with initial deliveries in 2007.
 
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Softwar    Whatcha Smoking HTJ?   6/21/2007 1:39:22 PM
 
The Enhanced-GBU-12 [EGBU-12] is a dual-mode guided bomb designed to effectively operate in all-weather conditions. Enhanced Paveway II features a GPS-aided Inertial Navigation System as well as a laser guidance system to offer one precision guided weapon for all situations. The resulting dual-mode capability offers true all-weather operational flexibility not found in other weapons systems being produced: GPS guidance for poor weather conditions and precise laser guidance when required for mobile targets of opportunity. Combat proven by the RAF during Operation Southern Watch, Operation Enduring Freedom and Operation Iraqi Freedom, the Enhanced PavewayT II DMLGB combines the strengths of both laser guidance and GPS/INS guidance to create a low-cost, all-weather, precision strike weapon. The result provides the warfighter with the option for autonomous GPS-aided guidance in addition to laser terminal guidance. All-Weather
 
The addition of the GPS/INS system to the PavewayT II LGB weapon provides increased delivery accuracy, better in-flight wind corrections, increased low-level performance, and expanded delivery envelopes. The unique dual-mode capability of the Enhanced PavewayT II DMLGB offers considerable operational flexibility not currently available with any other weapon outside the PavewayT II family of weapons. Specifically, GPS guidance can be used for all-weather attacks of known targets; and laser guidance provides an option for improved accuracy, man-in-the-loop, moving targets, and targets of opportunity when GPS is denied. Enhanced PavewayT II DMLGB is currently fielded in the RAF inventory and has already proven itself in combat as the weapon of choice for the RAF in Operation Iraqi Freedom.
On 07 June 2006 two F-16Cs dropped two precision-guided 500-pound bombs - a GBU-12 laser-guided bomb and a GBU-38 Joint Direct Attack Munition - destroying the terrorist safe house where Al Zarqawi and other terrorists were meeting.
 
 
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Softwar    Whatcha Smoking HTJ?   6/21/2007 1:41:43 PM
Here is a quote from the article that starts this thread...
 
"Ben Ford, senior manager of Raytheon Missile Systems, told IANS at the ongoing Paris Air Show that the company was in discussions to transfer the technology for the Enhanced Paveway-II Dual Mode GPS/Laser Guided Bombs to the OFB for their indigenous manufacture in India for use by the Indian Air Force (IAF). "
So - HTJ - speed reading, need new glasses or just been huffing paint again so your vision is a bit blurry.
 
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Softwar       6/21/2007 2:42:18 PM
HTJ - do you have any idea what Paveway 2 and 3 are for?  Clearly, you missed the part in the opening post where the Paveway 2 GPS/INS is being offered to India.  So your counter-points about jamming, and using smoke to spoof the bomb simply don't apply.
 
Paveway 3 is designed for deep bunker and hardened targets.  Other than an onboard autopilot - there is little difference in the electronics side.  Of course, the bomb casing, fusing mech and a few other items are hardened to withstand impact on deep bunkers.  Paveway 4 is an improved version of the bunker buster that has lower yeild for less collateral damage.  Very useful against dictators who have bunkers downtown.
 
So - other than being miffed because I got your posts deleted - you have no point to make - which is a typical showing for you anyway.  Do us all a favor - before you bust your bubble again and finally get deleted by the SYSOP - think before you post something.
 
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Herc the Merc    Softie u stupida$$   6/21/2007 3:04:56 PM
Its not my conclusion its based on this article which I POSTED EARLIER. I am sure this analyst knows more than most of us..so...STFU.
 
>; (or scroll up)
 
I presented an opinion from an expert. U just go running to Sysops again--ur the troll-and arn't u overposting??
 
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