Sorry bear, but your remarks are not quite rational: "I'm not going to say that North Korea is harmless." "Leave'em alone and they'll leave us alone." You cant have it both ways. They can't both be *not harmless* and be *harmless*. "God knows that America...yet they don't want a third world country to be as good as them." How is demanding that North Korea (a rogue nation as you yourself has admitted) live up to it's international agreements not wanting them to "be as good as us"? Explain please. How is wanting the starving people of North Korea to live under freedom from their despotic government not wanting to "be as good as us"? Explain please. "If the US, china, the UK, France, russia and veriouse other nations can have Nukes, then so can they." The US, France, Russia, and China very liekly are not going to threaten their neighbors with nuclear attack -- unlike N. Korea. As far as Pakistan, India, and other nuclear nations goes, the US opposed their efforts to gain nuclear capability. The US is also a signatory to the nuclear no-proliferation pact, which means that we do not want unstable antions like N. Korea to have nuclear weapons. Do you really want the current unstable regime in North Korea to have nukes simple because "other nations have them"? Really??? Recall that North Korea started a war that killed 50,000 of our citizens, and hundreds of thousands of South Koreans. They are led by a dictator/elite class who has starved millions of their own people to death. Who has attacked South Korea with its boats and saboteurs, and who has violated the DMZ hundreds of times. Who has kidnapped citizens of other nations and lied about it for years. Who made an agreement (it amounted to blackmail) with my nation (*and* the UN) not to develop nuclear weapons, but is doing so anyway. *Who is trying to blackmail the US and the UN AGAIN with its demands* There comes a point where a pattern of behavior clearly shows ones intents. What more of a pattern do you require from North Korea? NewGuy

Perhaps we should encourage South Korea and Japan to build a nuclear arsenal.

Don't forget the ROC! They deserve a nuclear deterence as well, against the PRC. And is also means they don't need our help in threatening nuclear retalition against the mainland.

Yes of course. Taiwan should have nukes too. And we should also begin training rebels in Tibet.

I forgot about them! I know that the Dali Llama is peaceful and such, but even some Tibetans must know that sometimes violence has its place.

And Mongolia. Never forget Mongolia.