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Subject: The ccp very want find a big war against west country.
throw111    6/22/2010 12:13:09 PM
The ccp very want find a big war against west country. More than 54000 American lost their lives in Korean War.And the CCP help the north Vietnam kill american soldier in Vietnam War. why the American goverment give up support the China Kuomintang PARTY in 1949, why why ??? China KMT ,the ally with American in the second WAR,who save many ,many american and english soldiers life in the second war fight against Japan. But KMT can not save american and english people life any longer in the neclear war.if the China Communist party army use the neclear weapons attack America , Tens of millions of American people will be killed at least.When thousands of nuclear bombs fly into sky.Oh,my God!!!the end of the world. The earth has no peace forever.War occur in anytime.Let us prepare to fight.The American were so funny,do you love CCP amry or Japan Amry ,north korean killed you cruely,or love KMT save you ? China Communist party ,the most evil and dreadful power in the world.They are liar and dictatorship.Never trust CCP. CCP has a lot of spys on the west country, American goverment should monitor CCP officals and their family whom lived in American, prevent they do any illegal activity in America. I think West country must help KMT and Taiwan stronger. Don't let CCP unify and cheat KMT,or cheat anybody. Just remember the CCP power they are criminal,they surpress the Chinese labour people, they minitor the Chinese people what they say and block the internet.The ditator didn"t care the pain and low salary of Chinese workers. They exploit the workers in the blooded factory. They master 90% property of whole China. The Chinese very hated CCP leadership. The ccp very want find a big war against west country.The ccp cheat Chinese hated the west country. I come from Taiwan .I am the Kuomintang PARTY member .
 
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YelliChink       6/22/2010 1:17:11 PM
This is actually the problem. The Western countries aren't reliable and almost all of them are now in knee-deep crap. The security of Taiwan has to be on the shoulders of all Taiwans. Americans are not dependable at all. If you act like one of the sheeple and beg for security guarantee from Americans, then you will end up getting nothing. Just take a look at Israel. People said how the US will protect and be on the Israeli side. Not so much now, isn't it?
 
God helps those who help themselves, and so do Americans. The next big investment on the defense should be indigenous sub program. The funny thing is that it is ROCN who are the major obstacle here.
 
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MakeIII    Why don't u stand with your own leg(s)   6/22/2010 4:53:18 PM
You know why?
 
God helps those who help themselves :)
 
Btw, your poor English may give U Sam some other reasons.
 
Man, don't u know that's ain't right :-/
 
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MakeIII    Why don't u stand with your own leg(s)   6/22/2010 4:56:21 PM

Sorry, I made a typo ---
 
 don't u know that ain't right :-/


 
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throw111       6/26/2010 8:17:43 AM
If the PLA cannot land tanks and I mean tanks, not SPH, within 7 days, then their war is lost.

By the same token, it the PLA does manage to lank tanks, the RoCA has lost.

It is all about force ratios. That 100 miles of Taiwan straits means that if the PLA has managed by surprise to land a force on Taiwan, then, their best force ratio is 1 to 1, ie one PLA division against 3 Taiwanese brigades.

If ... and this is a very big if ... the PLA can manage to hand on for 72, hours, then, they can land an entire corps, 30,000 men. HOWEVER, the RoCA would have mobilized their immediate reserves, ie area, ie an Army, 100,000 men.
 
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throw111       6/26/2010 8:19:09 AM
But sir may i ask :
Why help the soviet union survive, if the western allies could beat Germany and Japan all by themselves ?
Why help consolidate a ideology against which they are bound to fight a long arms race in the foreseeable future
 
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throw111       6/26/2010 8:21:31 AM
I do like seeing people discuss the Korean War...it really is the forgotten war. I had to correct my brother the other day who was talking about the new HBO show "The Pacific" talking about how the pacific theatre was the "forgotten war" I reminded him of the MANY MANY movies about the pacific.
 
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throw111       6/26/2010 8:22:30 AM
That's where the PLA will stop. There is not enough lift left to do anything more other than to resupply the corps on Taiwan. Water, food, and ammo would take precedent over bodies and armour.

In the mean time, the RoCA would have completed it's full mobilization, 400,000 men while a 30,000 men PLA force is sitting on the beaches.

40 to less than 1 odds.

The ONLY chance the PLA has is to deliver superior firepower onto the beaches, ie tanks BUT the RoCA tanks would now be waiting on the beachheads
 
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throw111       6/26/2010 8:23:44 AM

This is actually the problem. The Western countries aren't reliable and almost all of them are now in knee-deep crap. The security of Taiwan has to be on the shoulders of all Taiwans. Americans are not dependable at all. If you act like one of the sheeple and beg for security guarantee from Americans, then you will end up getting nothing. Just take a look at Israel. People said how the US will protect and be on the Israeli side. Not so much now, isn't it?

 

God helps those who help themselves, and so do Americans. The next big investment on the defense should be indigenous sub program. The funny thing is that it is ROCN who are the major obstacle here.
 
the CCP and Korean soldiers fought because they were either more frightened of what their own side would do to them or because they'd been brainwashed into following the Party religion.
And you didn't win, the best the Korean war can be described as is a "no-score draw" because there were no significant permanent gains by either side.

Of course you could say that both the Chinese and North Korean people lost - because they have had to suffer from very nasty dictatorships for the last fifty or sixty years



 
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throw111       6/26/2010 8:28:59 AM
The famine during Mao's years caused deaths with some claims to the tune of 30-40 million. Only problem with that is that China's population did not decline by 30-40 million. What the people claiming about China's deaths did was to take the birth rates upto the famines and stated that had it not been for the famines that there should be 30-40 million more people.
 
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CJH       6/26/2010 1:28:42 PM

This is actually the problem. The Western countries aren't reliable and almost all of them are now in knee-deep crap. The security of Taiwan has to be on the shoulders of all Taiwans. Americans are not dependable at all. If you act like one of the sheeple and beg for security guarantee from Americans, then you will end up getting nothing. Just take a look at Israel. People said how the US will protect and be on the Israeli side. Not so much now, isn't it?

 

God helps those who help themselves, and so do Americans. The next big investment on the defense should be indigenous sub program. The funny thing is that it is ROCN who are the major obstacle here.


I went to a musical at the Shubert theater in NYC in the sixties called "Promises, Promises".
There was a musical number that went "Nothing Succeeds Like Success".
 
Well, our story now is that nothing corrupts like success.
 
We were somewhat complacent in 1917 when Russia went Bolshevik. Then, especially though the Depression, we became fearful of Communism here and we made our society more level, building a large middle class. Then, after the "fall" of Communism, we reverted to the same old complacency.
 
I believe that was the hand of God in world affairs keeping a lot of countries honest, so to speak.
 
God is at work through second causes. We are reprobates now but God is preparing to chastize us through future enemies or economic distress or both.
 
At some point though, since our willingness to turn to God will not appear, He will raise up other nations in Africa, South America or Asia to dominate the world.
 
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