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CJH 12/31/2010 11:41:12 AM

Outline of a Platform for Constitutional Government "On June 17, 1858, Abraham Lincoln said in his House Divided Speech, “If we could first know where we are, and whither we are tending, we could better judge what to do, and how to do it.” His analysis was founded upon a profound contemplation of the Declaration of Independence and its embodiment in the Constitution of the United States. It issued in a set of proposals designed first to limit and then to extinguish slavery by strictly constitutional means. We require a similar kind of analysis today. Our most difficult policy issues are embedded in a vast administrative state that is built without regard for the principles of the Declaration in their true meaning, or for the proper constitutional operation of government."

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CJH 12/31/2010 11:53:53 AM

I do not necessarily subscribe to everything this articles puts forth since I believe that our republic is dead and gone and that what in essence killed it was the loss of God given wisdom, light and understanding that resulted from our society's turning away from the God of the Bible.

Since I believe this, I cannot believe we can return by any other way than to turn back to the God of the Bible.

But, in the end God can work any way He wants to and it is up to Him whether there is another "route" back.

So maybe there is something here.

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YelliChink 12/31/2010 1:28:53 PM

Since I believe this, I cannot believe we can return by any other way than to turn back to the God of the Bible.

But, in the end God can work any way He wants to and it is up to Him whether there is another "route" back.

So maybe there is something here.

I don't fully agree that the God and Bible is the only way. What I see is that the country is misled into encroaching marxism, which is the exact opposite to God and Bible. Many people do not understand that marxism is essentially ethics based on Satanism, and Satanism as a theology is not about devil worship, but rather worship of one's existence. In this respect, you can pretty much say that the country has been misled not just away from God and Bible, but rather turning back on. The whole thing is very interesting for people with high curiosity at matters regarding human minds.

When ever you have a people and place where the ethics is guided by normal religion, not perverted cults, you can always find a peaceful society.

Nevertheless, I can't say whether I disagree with you that returning to God and Bible is a solution, since I don't know any solution to re-moralize the US. How much are you willing to return to God and Bible? And to whose idea of God and Bible? I'm not picking on Christianity, but you know that, historically, many sects of Christianity have draconian ideas to run society, and that's not limited to Catholic Church.

From my perspective, banning trans fat is no different than banning alcohol or regulating women's dress. The religious fundamentalists are not much different than the marxists who run your government today. Real nice people keep religion to their own in order to improve their inner universe, while the perverts (of all sorts, not just sex) have a tendency to force their ideas upon others, by any means necessary.

Hence, I would rather put my faith to myself, and wish and society can embrace Common Sense, by Thomas Payne, of course. Maybe it's time somebody writes Common Sense II.

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CJH 12/31/2010 11:04:53 PM

Since I believe this, I cannot believe we can return by any other way than to turn back to the God of the Bible.

But, in the end God can work any way He wants to and it is up to Him whether there is another "route" back.

So maybe there is something here.

When ever you have a people and place where the ethics is guided by normal religion, not perverted cults, you can always find a peaceful society.

Hence, I would rather put my faith to myself, and wish and society can embrace Common Sense, by Thomas Payne, of course. Maybe it's time somebody writes Common Sense II.

When I used to refer to Christians, I would mean mainly people who were born into a culture where the Christian religion was practiced (As I was). This is what most people think of as Christianity.

But now when I refer to Christianity, I mean a relationship with the God of the Bible (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%203:3&version=ESV">born again - John 3:3</a>).

The difference is total. The living Jesus, our high priest in heaven, supervises His "invisible church" composed of God's remnant ( God spoke to Elijah as recorded in <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Kings%2019&version=ESV">1 Kings 19:18</a> referring to 7000 as His remnant in Israel). These people , the saints, God's remnant, the church, born again people, the bride of Christ have their names written in the <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%203:5&version=ESV#en-ESV-30736">Book of Life</a>.

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CJH 12/31/2010 11:10:31 PM

No doubt in 1789 there was a remnant in this country. But God and the Bible must have been influential well beyond the bounds of that remnant.

What exactly should we do as a nation? At least accept intellectually the centrality of God's laws, as revealed in God's word. And accept that doing things God's way gives us the only chance of enjoying sustained liberty and sustained properity (not guaranteed but a better chance this way than any other).

Do this. Turn to God. Stay away from business-as-usual religion. Trust God. If anyone moves towards God, God will reciprocate and move towards them. That probably includes bodies of people such as nations. God wants every nation to turn to Him too.

Do this and watch for what God does next and follow His lead.

If it was done before , it can be done again.

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CJH 1/1/2011 12:06:35 AM

From my perspective, banning trans fat is no different than banning alcohol or regulating women's dress.

The Devil's response to Christ's atonement on the cross was a new strategy. This strategy involved infiltrating the church and subverting it from within. The strategy has manifested itself in different forms and is AKA the spirit of the antichrist. Antichrist refers to the quality of outwardly appearing Christ-like while inwardly being something quite the opposite.

I believe the book of 1 John was prompted by the heresy of gnosticism which was evidently one form of this subversion. Gnosticism, by the way, is what is glamorized in the movie "The DaVinci Code". If you want to get acquainted with "The AntiChrist", you have the movie as a start.

So, you will find all sorts of things going on in the supposed name of Christianity.

But that is why the Bible is so central. It embodies the true standard so to speak. The more one studies it, the less vulnerable one is to being mislead by the spirit of the antichrist.

(Of course, non-believers won't since they can't understand the Bible. And that is because only the Holy Spirit can make the Bible understandable to a person. One must be indwelt by the Holy Spirit to be taught by the Holy Spirit and that only comes from being born again.)

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The Bible does not ban the use of alcohol per se.

What the Bible does is to condemn drunkenness, ie getting blitzed (or maybe a real buzz). This is common sense. There are Bible passages that seem to make exceptions in the case of people whose lives are bitter though.

I can't think of any Bible passages right off that regulate women's dress other common sense considerations. Modesty is a common sense consideration in most parts of the world.

The Bible leaves us free to dress modestly as we want or to refrain from all alcohol use if we want. But there are passges I believe that also condemn making rules for other people requiring going farther than what the Bible says.

R.C. Sproul defines legalism as the act of making rules for people which are not called for in the Bible. Legalism is an ongoing object of criticism in the church. The Jewish religious leaders who wanted Jesus dead were hyper-legalists.

Paul wrote to the Galatians berating them for falling under legalism.

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CJH 1/1/2011 12:30:53 AM

Real nice people keep religion to their own in order to improve their inner universe, while the perverts (of all sorts, not just sex) have a tendency to force their ideas upon others, by any means necessary.

The relationship with God is completely personal. Nobody can intervene to make you born again although they can influence you. God defines who you are and not people.

Christians group together for specifiic purposes but each one's experience with God can't be shared with someone else.

God gave us free will. Every encounter with God is guided on our end not by feelings but through the exercise of that God given will in the form of concious decisions. God provides the wherewithal to accomplish goals He wants accomplished and our input is the concious decision to obey in each detail.

You may not have noticed but the Constitution's establishment clause was included in order to maintain religious freedom by preventing governments from coming between people and the God their worship.I say that because goverment power is how people have forced their ideas on others. That's what the role of established state churches was.

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CJH 1/1/2011 12:51:12 AM

Real nice people keep religion to their own in order to improve their inner universe, while the perverts (of all sorts, not just sex) have a tendency to force their ideas upon others, by any means necessary.

Actually, Christians are commanded to go beyond "keeping religion to their own" even though many professing ones do not.

Jesus said that if one denied HIm before men, He would deny them before His Father in heaven. Keeping it to their own is too much like denying Jesus.

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