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Subject: US Congresswoman shot by madman.
heraldabc    1/8/2011 5:45:15 PM
http://www.npr.org/2011/01/08/132764367/congresswoman-shot-in-arizona quoted ===================================================== Arizona Rep. Giffords Shot; Condition Unclear by NPR Staff January 8, 2011 Rep. Gabrielle Giffords was shot in the head by a gunman at a public event in Tucson on Saturday. There are conflicting reports about whether she was killed. The Pima County, Ariz., sheriff's office told member station KJZZ the 40-year-old Democrat was killed. A hospital spokeswoman said Giffords was in critical condition and undergoing surgery. At least eight other people, including members of her staff, were injured. There also were conflicting reports on the number of deaths at the scene, but President Obama, in a statement, said "we know that some have passed away" and that Giffords was "gravely wounded." Giffords, who was re-elected to a third term in November, was hosting a "Congress on Your Corner" event at a Safeway in northwest Tucson when a gunman ran up and started shooting, according to Peter Michaels, news director of Arizona Public Media. The suspect fired indiscriminately from about four feet away, Michaels said. A congressional official told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity that the gunman was using an automatic weapon. The suspect ran off and was tackled by a bystander. He was taken into custody. Witnesses described him as in his late teens or early 20s. Federal, state and local law enforcement authorities in Arizona are investigating the shooting. The congresswoman was transported to University Medical Center in Tucson. Giffords was first elected to represent Arizona's 8th District in 2006. The "Congress on Your Corner" events, which she holds regularly, allow constituents to present their concerns directly to her. Giffords' Tucson office was one of three damaged last March by vandals who targeted Democrats in advance of the U.S. House vote on the controversial health care legislation. A glass panel at her office was shattered, and at the time her staff said that it appeared the window had been damaged by a pellet gun. About Gabrielle Giffords Personal * Born: Jun 8, 1970, in Tucson * Family: Married to Mark Kelly, a Navy pilot and astronaut with NASA; two children * Home: Tucson, Arizona * Religion: Jewish Career * U.S. House Representative, elected 2006 * State Senator, Arizona 2002-05 * State Representative, Arizona 2000-02 * CEO El Campo Tire 1997-00 * Price Waterhouse Coopers 1996-97 Education * Scripps College, BA 1993 * Cornell Univ, MS 1996 * Fulbright Scholar in Mexico, 1996 House Speaker John Boehner condemned the attack. "An attack on one who serves is an attack on all who serve," he said in a statement. "Acts and threats of violence against public officials have no place in our society." Her fellow Arizona congressman, Republican Jeff Flake, reached Saturday on his way to the hospital recalled that he had last spoken with Giffords on the House floor during this week's swearing-in ceremony. "We have a fairly small delegation and we've met often," he said of Giffords, who in November beat back a tough challenge from a Tea Party-endorsed opponent. "She got re-elected because she's tenacious," Flake said. "There was a very strong headwind against all Democrats and people did not expect her to come back to Congress. "But she was tireless," he said. "Others may have held back after things happen — like the damage to her office. She was fearless." Flake said emotions have been running high in Arizona over issues, including immigration. "That's obviously an issue that is a very passionate one for a lot of people," he said. In a statement released by his office, House Speaker John Boehner said he was "horrified by the senseless attack on Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords and members of her staff. An attack on one who serves is an attack on all who serve....this is a sad day for our country." NPR's Liz Halloran contributed to this report. ===================================================================== Comment, What is known, is that she was shot in the head and is alive. Others (eight?) were also injured, including a child, who was killed in the same incident. Details are confused. The gunman was captured. As soon as I can find out anything, I will add to it. Addendum, a Federal judge (GOP Bush appointee) was also killed at this event, http://www.talkleft.com/story/2011/1/8/133013/1904 [quoted Dem AZ Congresswoman Giffords and Others Shot Outside Safeway By Big Tent Democrat, Section Other Politics Posted on Sat Jan 08, 2011 at 12:30:13 PM EST Tags: Gabriella Giffords (all tags) Share This: Digg! StumbleUpon del.icio.us reddit reddit Update 2:04 pm: Press Conference: University Hospital spokesman: Ten patients were brought in to the hospital, one, a 9 year old child, died. 5 are in critical conditi
 
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YelliChink       1/9/2011 9:55:45 AM
Some tweets:
 
caitieparker Caitie Parker
Saying Jared Laughner was the gunman. Really hoping that's not the same guy I went to HS with, really good friend. Freaking out right now!!!
 
 
caitieparker Caitie Parker
Official I went to high school & college, & was in a band w/ the gunman. I can't even fathom this right now.
 
@antderosa I went to high school, college, & was in a band with the gunman. This tragedy has just turned to horrific.
 
 
 
@antderosa He was a political radical & met Giffords once before in '07, asked her a question & he told me she was "stupid & unintelligent"


@antderosa he was a pot head & into rock like Hendrix,The Doors, Anti-Flag. I haven't seen him in person since '07 in a sign language class


@antderosa As I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal. & oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy.

@antderosa he had a lot of friends until he got alcohol poisoning in '06, & dropped out of school. Mainly loner very philosophical.
 
@noboa more left. I haven't seen him since '07 though. He became very reclusive.
 
@lakarune I haven't seen him since '07. Then, he was left wing.


 
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Nanheyangrouchuan       1/9/2011 10:39:08 AM
Let the official discrediting campaign begin!!!
 
Too bad social media and the internet weren't this fast when the OKC terrorism occurred, by the same type of people.
 
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CJH       1/9/2011 10:59:01 AM

It is just a symptom of how far we have drifted in that we have allowed this horror to happen. This madman should never have been germinated in the political environment we have now. There is a LOT of blame to go around, but lest those of the extreme left, or the extreme right seek to blame each other and score political points in this incident, know this: you bastards, who are exactly alike in your totalitarian idiocies and delusions, created the cesspool of political hate that ignited this lunatic and provoked him.

 

The madman Jerrod Loughner was directly inspired by you emotional and irrational idiots.



Think on that.
 



 

Color coded, italicized, quoted in full context, and bolded for clarity for those who did not read what I wrote. 


 

Sheesh.

 

H.


 
I stay by my conclusion.
You are jumping to conclusions as they did.
 
This guy may and  probably does have a condition that is totally unaffected by the political enviroment per se. Paranoid schizophrenia would be such a condition.
 
You do us a disservice.

 
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YelliChink       1/9/2011 11:41:54 AM

Let the official discrediting campaign begin!!!

 

Too bad social media and the internet weren't this fast when the OKC terrorism occurred, by the same type of people.



Unfortunately, the people behind OKC are not the same type as this mental patient.
 
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YelliChink       1/9/2011 12:11:43 PM
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I'd rather have Giffords than the RINO from Chicagoland. Best wishes for Ms. Giffords and other injured.
 
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heraldabc       1/9/2011 3:08:18 PM

YelliChink       1/9/2011 12:11:43 PM

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I'd rather have Giffords than the RINO from Chicagoland. Best wishes for Ms. Giffords and other injured.

 

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VelocityVector       1/9/2011 12:51:52 AM

http://www.strategypage.com/CuteSoft_Client/CuteEditor/Images/anchor.gif" alt="" /> In terms of one Arizona-related political issue there ought to be zero polarization.  Illegal immigration.  Else we are not a sovereign nation.  Burn the Mexican cockroaches from these walls with flamethrowers if need be.  But no matter what they and their ill-gotten gains must go or else do not be surprised when my tax monies avoid the dragnet.  I will not pay for the failures of some other nation.  If more shootings occur as a result of this struggle, and I am too smart to participate directly, then so be it.  I will step over the bodies, as I have literally when visiting so-called developing nations.  If Loughner shot these people on illegal immigration grounds, I will aid in his defense at no cost.  And the next ones, too.

v^2

 

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YelliChink       1/9/2011 9:55:45 AM

http://www.strategypage.com/CuteSoft_Client/CuteEditor/Images/anchor.gif" alt="" />Some tweets:

 

caitieparker Caitie Parker

Saying Jared Laughner was the gunman. Really hoping that's not the same guy I went to HS with, really good friend. Freaking out right now!!!

 

 

caitieparker Caitie Parker

Official I went to high school & college, & was in a band w/ the gunman. I can't even fathom this right now.

 

http://www.strategypage.com/CuteSoft_Client/CuteEditor/Images/anchor.gif" alt="" />@antderosa I went to high school, college, & was in a band with the gunman. This tragedy has just turned to horrific.

 

 

 

@antderosa He was a political radical & met Giffords once before in '07, asked her a question & he told me she was "stupid & unintelligent"



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YelliChink       1/9/2011 3:41:11 PM
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heraldabc       1/9/2011 4:54:50 PM

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I found this more interesting.
 
H.
 
 
 
 
 
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heraldabc       1/9/2011 7:51:12 PM
 
Posted at 4:03 PM ET, 01/ 9/2011
 
Jared Loughner's behavior recorded by college classmate in e-mails
By David A. Fahrenthold

In early June, Lynda Sorenson, 52, had gone back to community college in Tucson in hopes of getting back on the job market. One of her classes was a basic algebra class--and one of her classmates was Jared Loughner, now identified by authorities as the man who killed six people and critically wounded Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) in a shooting rampage Saturday. Sorenson's e-mails to friends from last summer, provided to the Washington Post, reveal her growing alarm at Loughner's strange and disruptive
behavior in class.


From June 1, the first day of class:
"One day down and nineteen to go. We do have one student in the class who was disruptive today, I'm not certain yet if he was on drugs (as one person surmised) or disturbed. He scares me a bit. The teacher tried to throw him out and he refused to go, so I talked to the teacher afterward. Hopefully he will be out of class very soon, and not come back with an automatic weapon."

From June 10:
"As for me, Thursday means the end to week two of algebra class. It seems to be going by quickly, but then I do have three weeks to go so we'll see how I feel by then. Class isn't dull as we have a seriously disturbed student in the class, and they are trying to figure out how to get rid of him before he does something bad, but on the other hand, until he does something bad, you can't do anything about him. Needless to say, I sit by the door."

From June 14:
"We have a mentally unstable person in the class that scares the living crap out of me. He is one of those whose picture you see on the news, after he has come into class with an automatic weapon. Everyone interviewed would say, Yeah, he was in my math class and he was really weird. I sit by the door with my purse handy. If you see it on the news one night, know that I got out fast..."

The class's instructor, Ben McGahee, said in an interview Sunday that Loughner had been removed from class in its third or fourth week, because of repeated disruptions.

By David A. Fahrenthold  | January 9, 2011; 4:03 PM ET 

 
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It is obvious that Loughner was at the lip-harmonica stage of behavior, where sane normal people were able to correctly read him as a dangerous threat who needed to be locked up.
 
What happened? 
 
H.
     
 
 
 
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CJH    Herald   1/9/2011 9:09:31 PM
You seem to be obsessing over this.
 
I recommend you find something else to pay attention to until everyone gets a clearer picture on this.
 
People die by violence every day. Each such death is a tragedy. We can't change that.
 
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