ilpars Clueless People 4/14/2004 10:19:32 AM
"You do not know anything about Islam but yet you feel nothing wrong about insulting that.
Fundementalists are not the only muslims and are not representing other muslims.
Like some Christian fundementalist who killed a lady because she aborted her child; does not represent every Christian in these world "
Elbandeedo RE:Clueless People 4/14/2004 2:09:11 PM
"hmmmm.... you point to one Christian committing what we all agree is murder.
I can point to hundreds, even thousands of attacks by muslims on people of other religions/races/nationalities.
If you say we know nothing of islam, then one must assume you are an astute scholar yourself.
Riddle me this "batman": When the pedophile muhammed said he was the unlettered prophet mentioned in the Bible, please tell me which book of the Bible mentions "the unlettered prophet"?
I await your reply. I won't be holdling my breath.
ilpars RE:Clueless People - Elbandeedo 4/14/2004 11:57:21 PM
"I am a muslim, not a scholar.
In Islam, killing is aproved only in self-defense, defense of the nation or in the defense of the religion. Killing someone for any other is one of the greatest sins in Islam.
In Islam, converting someone to Islam by force or acting badly against someone because of his religion is distinctly forbidden.
In Islam, Christians and Jews are called Ehli-Kitap (from the same book) and it says in essence all 3 religion is 1 religion.
What fundementalist believe is US and Israel are trying to destroy Islam as a religion.
The ones like you who says "Only good muslim is a dead muslim" (That saying is belonged to you I believe Elbandeedo), are giving them a reason to believe this.
After USA and Israel what they hate most is my country Turkey. As 98% of our population is muslim but we are a secular democracy. According to fundementalists, we have no religion. That is why Turkey had faced El-Queda attacks in last 2 years. I think you did not know that. Turkey was fighting against fundementalism in last 80 years. 20 years ago Taliban was an American supported resistance group against Russian invasion.
And you said "I can point to hundreds, even thousands of attacks by muslims on people of other religions/races/nationalities."
You can say this sentence for also other religions/people. At least muslim countries never had anything like Nazis. There is nothing as Islamofacist belief. But I agree that some fundementalist groups are as bad as Nazis.
What I am trying to say is there are always extremes in every group of people.
Fundementalism is mostly popular in uneducated, very poor groups of people. The ones who hasd nothing to lose. Best way to fight fundementalism is to give these people a decent education and job."