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Subject: Algerian terrorists in U.K. - Ricin-YIKES!
Elbandeedo    1/8/2003 6:35:22 AM That's some bad stuff... Now, I'm sure this can't be right, but the article CLAIMS the french tipped the bobbies to the apartment. Nawww... must be a mistake! ;-) E.
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peanut gallery    RE:Algerian terrorists in U.K. - Ricin-YIKES!   1/8/2003 7:19:03 AM
It is pretty scary. I saw the article and had similar thoughts about the French. Then again, they lost a war in Algeria and probably still pretty bitter about it. Of course, they are bitter about everything. PG
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giblets    Who is paying the terrorists? The Brits!!!   1/9/2003 6:24:02 AM
What is great, is they are all 'Asylum seekers' says it all, you start to wonder why most of them are persecuted in their own countries! Abu Hamza, inciting war, algerians plotting terror, oh and because they are all asylum seekers our lovely government is actually paying for the flat, and giving them a living allowance!
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ChrisWI    DC Oake death question   1/16/2003 2:23:48 PM
Why do British police not carry firearms?
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Final Historian    RE:DC Oake death question   1/16/2003 2:29:11 PM
Because they don't have to worry about Criminals having them, as Britain doesn't allow citizens to have firearms. (thank you James Madison!) Seems that the Bobbies didn't do a good job restraining the terrorists, and one of them payed for it with his life. Yet another victim of Islamist terror.
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American Kafir    RE:DC Oake death question   1/16/2003 3:44:33 PM
"Why do British police not carry firearms?" By British law, the only people allowed to carry firearms are lawbreakers.
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Elbandeedo    RE:DC Oake death question   1/17/2003 6:25:09 AM
Hey, saying, "Stop! Or I'll ... say 'stop' again!" can be very effective against criminals with a "good heart" and heavy consience.... or not. E.
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giblets    RE:DC Oake death question   1/17/2003 9:20:07 AM
Yeh from the UK we watch all those police videos from the US, very trigger happy! Don't think that the blokes death would have been prevented by him having a gun, though his murderer probably would have been killed. Stabbing is the main problem for British police, though with an increase in Yardies and ALbanian gangsters it is becoming more of a problem.
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Elbandeedo    RE:DC Oake death question - and U.S. cops as trigger happy   1/17/2003 9:31:19 AM
I think there are some factors you need to consider before labeling our cops with a blanket "trigger happy". 1. What the media shows is always the 'spectacular', not the commonplace. Cops in the country make 100's of thousands of 'stops' a day (I'm talking about the whole nation, all the cops, all the stops) and only a very very few ever actually draw their weapon. you ALWAYS hear about the shootings, which, considering how much of the CRIMINAL populace is armed (some of them heavily!) is a pretty small amount. (and that was my second point!) The criminals (gang-bangers, whatever) are often armed at LEAST as well as the cops. Why should a cop take a chance (that is not shoot, but try to "take them alive") when the other guy is already throwing lead at him? When I was in the U.K. I had heard of an initiative to arm a special unit in every major police department. I can't recall any of the details, but I do recall it started quite an uproar. E.
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giblets    RE:DC Oake death question - and U.S. cops as trigger happy   1/17/2003 1:28:31 PM
yeh people don't like guns here, having said that, if a burgular enters your home over here (in the UK) you should apprently let him rob you, and not try and stop him. You might want to try and reason with him at most, but then you might get sued for mental damage or something stupid.
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Elbandeedo    RE:DC Oake death question - and U.S. cops as trigger happy   1/24/2003 1:24:37 PM
While in a bicycle shop in a small northern town in England (buying a new lock) I overheard the shopkeeper and a little old man having an interesting conversation: "Well, I aquired a new ladder and a nice set of tools today," says the old man. "Oh? And how is that?" says the shopkeeper "apparently someone wanted to burgle my house; they climbed the ladder to the second floor window, smashed the glass, threw their toolbox into the house, began to climb in... and then a growl from the shadows must have spooked them!" "A growl?" "Yes, my Black Lab was lying in the shadows and the toolbox nearly landed on her. she awoke and let the would be thief know what she thought of them coming in. they panicked and even left the ladder!" I love a crime gone wrong! E.
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