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Subject: Suicide attack in Moscow concert
FJV    7/5/2003 4:54:58 PM
Here is the news link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3047386.stm Killing people who are just trying to have a good time is crazy. Attacking military targets I may respect, but this is just BS. These Chechen terrorists are fanatical. Such attacks make me wander how long it will take before they will make terror attacks in Western countries to put foreign pressure on Russia. After all the PLO has also attacked or taken hostage westerners.
 
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ChrisWI    RE:Suicide attack in Moscow concert   7/5/2003 5:41:16 PM
Bush condemed it, damn we gotta do more then just condem these b@$t@rds, air strikes at the least.
 
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American Kafir    RE:Suicide attack in Moscow concert   7/8/2003 7:47:12 AM
Bush needs to criticize Putin for allowing Grozny to remain on our planet.
 
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Thomas    RE:Suicide attack in Moscow concert   7/8/2003 9:32:12 AM
Well Putin didn't or haven't You seen the drop in real estate value there?
 
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SGTObvious    Denouncing isn't enough   7/8/2003 6:36:09 PM
Reuters, which never met a terrorist organization it couldn't put a positive spin on, was quick to note that only the most radical Chechen seperatists support suicide bombings. Yes, and only the most politically aware Americans make it a point to vote in every election. It still doesn't change the fact that voting is an essential part of our system and terror an essential part of theirs. The Chechen leaders publicly denounced the bombing- big deal. THis should no longer be enough. We need a higher standard. I've heard enough Trojan-horse denunciations by Islamic leaders of bombings, I want to hear them denounce the PEOPLE who support the bombings. That would be a step in the right directions. These people are scum. They denounce the act, for the western media, and go on supporting the people who commit the act. Chechens are blowing up concerts- of course, concerts are right up there on the list of Acceptable Islamic Targets, with Office Buildings and Pizza Shops. These people should be warned- get with the 21st century NOW or expect the nations they attack to start considering adopting Islamic rules of engagement.
 
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FJV    RE:Denouncing isn't enough   7/9/2003 2:24:21 PM
Fighting these terrorists isn't very easy. While Putin was leveling Grosny a large amount of terrorists was hiding in the mountains. Also indiscriminate violence gives these terrorists extra incentive and a justification for their acts and maybe a few extra recruits. You want to make it hard for terrorists to continue and make it easy for them to give up. While blowing the whole Chechnia to bits might give a good feeling it is not a substitute for victory. Given the different nature of fighting terrorists maybe Putin should start using units specializing in hunting down these terrorists. Units specifically trained, tailored and configured for this enemy. Maybe something with the relevant secret services, intelligence, counter insurgency and special forces capabilities combined in one unit. (or does Putin already have something like that?)
 
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American Kafir    RE:Denouncing isn't enough   7/9/2003 5:25:55 PM
When the Japanese needed to be convinced that their god-emperor could not protect them, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were decimated by atomic bombs. When the Muslims needed to be convinced that their moon god couldn't protect them...
 
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American Kafir    RE:Denouncing isn't enough   7/9/2003 5:25:57 PM
When the Japanese needed to be convinced that their god-emperor could not protect them, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were decimated by atomic bombs. When the Muslims needed to be convinced that their moon god couldn't protect them...
 
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Shaka of Carthage    RE:Denouncing isn't enough ... American Kafir   7/9/2003 5:48:24 PM
Hiroshima and Nagasaki were more for the benefit of showing Russia what could be done, then an attempt to "defeat" Japan. Japan knew it was defeated, it was just a matter of what the conditions where going to be.
 
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American Kafir    RE:Denouncing isn't enough ... American Kafir   7/9/2003 6:01:18 PM
I'll meet you halfway Shaka. Everyone figured the US would lose a million men invading the Japanese homeland. At least, that was the selling point on using the atomic bombs in the first place. And I do agree with it, to some extent. Why invade a country when you can just reduce a few cities to radioactive rubble and force them to sue for peace? Or course, we had to alter this policy when the Russians got the atomic bomb.
 
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ghostship    RE:Denouncing isn't enough ... American Kafir   7/9/2003 6:12:31 PM
Here is the one thing the Superpowers forget to do : Terrorize the terrorist. People think twice when sudenly granma is a target too.
 
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