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Subject: Let's call Terrorists What they Really Are- Islamic Jihadists
swhitebull    2/19/2004 9:14:09 PM
from FrontPagemag.com: http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=12245 Jihad: The Real Terrorist Enemy By Robert Spencer FrontPageMagazine.com | February 19, 2004 A vote for Bush or Kerry will be a vote for or against the war on terror. Kerry, of course, has already famously said, "I think there has been an exaggeration" of the terror threat by the Bush White House. Others on the Left go even farther, complaining that the word terrorism itself is being kept deliberately imprecise: "Few American politicians or commentators," asserts John V. Whitbeck, an international lawyer based in Saudi Arabia, in Tuesday’s International Herald Tribune, "dare to question the conventional wisdom that ‘terrorism’ is the greatest threat facing America and the world. If so, the real threat lies not in the behavior to which this word is applied but in the word itself." The word, Whitbeck says, "is so subjective as to be devoid of any inherent meaning" —used by Bush and Co. to justify whatever geopolitical misadventures their masters at Halliburton order them to pursue next. Whitbeck suggests that "perhaps the only honest and globally workable definition of ‘terrorism’ is an explicitly subjective one — ‘violence that I don’t support.’" And, of course, the principal problem is that the U.S. is "relying on the word to assert, apparently, a right to attack any country it dislikes." Kerry, of course, will fix this right up. "Perhaps John Kerry," muses Whitbeck, "will have the courage and genuine patriotism to question the wisdom of continuing to wage a perpetual ‘war’ against a subjective epithet and, by doing so, to set us free, restoring some measure of sanity and more mature and constructive priorities both to American society and to America’s relations with the world." Bush has made himself vulnerable to this criticism by speaking in vague terms of America’s foes as "evildoers" and a "network of haters." Only in connection with foreign fighters in Iraq has he ever used the word "jihadists." If he began to use the word "jihad" the way those he identifies as terrorists and evildoers do, he could in one stroke remove charges of opportunism and lack of focus from the Democrats’ arsenal. For this is in fact the war we’re in: a war against people who identify themselves as jihadis, not as terrorists. The evildoers themselves, and their sympathizers, have on many occasions disdained the term "terrorism" for the same reasons Whitbeck does. But they aren’t left as bereft of understanding as he seems to be; as the Saudi Sheikh Wajdi Hamza Al-Ghazawi put it in a sermon: "The meaning of the term ‘terror’ used by the media . . . is Jihad for the sake of Allah." Osama bin Laden, Abu Bakar Bashir in Indonesia, Omar Bakri and Abu Hamza in England, Mullah Krekar in Norway, and other radical Muslims around the world have been unanimous in declaring that they are not indiscriminate purveyors of mayhem — terrorists — but mujahedin: jihad warriors. They have declared again and again that they are fighting to unify the Islamic people under a restored caliphate, and to establish the hegemony of Islamic law over the reunified umma, as well as over the non-Muslim world. In doing this, they say, they are acting in complete accord with the commandments of their religion, which mandates warfare against non-Muslims in order to establish Islamic rule. And they have declared that in this struggle, the United States is their principal foe. Why not take them at their word? Why not acknowledge that the war on terror is a defensive action against global jihadists? The obvious answer, of course, is that to do so would alienate moderate Muslim regimes, as well as the Muslim population in the United States. But there is no reason why this must necessarily be so. If Western Muslims are genuine moderates, who truly regard jihad solely as the prevailing rhetoric has it — as a spiritual struggle — then they should have no trouble with a conflict against these men who have "hijacked" their religion. For Bush to declare an anti-jihad, in other words, would not be to declare the much-touted "war against Islam." It would simply be to acknowledge fully the challenge that has been made to America and the Western world, and to take up that challenge. This clarification would also apply to the war in Iraq, where Saddam Hussein, contrary to media claims, was up to his teeth in the global jihad. According to Deroy Murdock’s revealing article "Saddam Hussein’s Philanthropy of Terror" in the Fall 2003 issue of American Outlook, Saddam operated training camps for jihadis from Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and the Gulf States at Salman Pak. This information comes from Khidir Hamza, former head of Iraq’s nuclear weapons program. Hamsiraji Sali of Abu Sayyaf, a radical Muslim group allied with al-Qaeda that has carried out bombings in the Philippines, says that he was offered Iraqi help by Hisham al Hussein, an Iraqi diplomat in Manila. Phone rec
 
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SGTObvious    AK on the path of light?   2/26/2004 4:09:29 PM
Look at it this way, AK. Nothing to lose. If athiests are right and we are nothing more than interesting patterns of subatomic particles that cease to have any function after physical death, whether you beleive or not, makes no difference when you die., right? On the other hand, if it DOES make a difference... It's kinda like, if I held out two hands and said "if you pick the hand with the dollar, it's yours" you may be correct in saying "you don't have a dollar in either hand" but you have nothing to lose in picking one.
 
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American Kafir    RE:AK on the path of light?   2/26/2004 4:32:11 PM
>>Look at it this way, AK. Nothing to lose. If athiests are right and we are nothing more than interesting patterns of subatomic particles that cease to have any function after physical death, whether you beleive or not, makes no difference when you die., right? On the other hand, if it DOES make a difference... It's kinda like, if I held out two hands and said "if you pick the hand with the dollar, it's yours" you may be correct in saying "you don't have a dollar in either hand" but you have nothing to lose in picking one.<< Yep, good ol' Pascal's Wager. I was raised by strong Christians, and I even accepted Jesus into my heart as a kid. There was a time in my life when I was a "fiery bible-thumper." Even considered becoming a minister. But, as life took different twists and turns I became turned off by Bible literalists and televangelical hucksters and here I am today, just a "sinner" trying to be a decent person. I've still got a lot of anger issues to work through, and it seemed easier just to turn away from it all and try to make people question their faith... as much as I question my own. I guess that makes me "militant agnostic - I don't know and you don't either." But the pondering, if I can put a Cartesian spin on it, makes me wonder who is doing the pondering. No one talks about God more than atheists, it seems...
 
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appleciderus    RE:AK on the path of light?   2/26/2004 5:34:57 PM
"..a 'sinner' trying to be a decent person..." Sounds like every "good" person I've ever met.
 
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American Kafir    RE:AK on the path of light?   2/26/2004 11:10:52 PM
"..a 'sinner' trying to be a decent person..." >>Sounds like every "good" person I've ever met<< Thanks. I know I've been hateful, even spiteful at times on the subject of religion / theology. You know the old joke - "I'd be more religious if certain people were more often disintegrated by bolts of lightning." Perhaps I'm spooked by the clouds above. Who knows? I guess I'm just trying to get back to the things that matter - life, family, community, nation - and leave the monday morning quarterbacking to those who never took the field. Sorry to ruminate on my spiritual belly button here. I'm not even sure I make sense to myself. But I'm trying. And I think that's enough metaphors for one post. ;-)
 
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