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Subject: WAKE UP CALL FOR the Europeans
swhitebull    2/29/2004 12:27:56 PM After 40 years or more of blowing feckless multi culti soap bubbles, the governments of some European countries have suddenly become alive to the dangers of being too tolerant towards Islamism, an ideology that is intolerant and crusading. Two years after the brave and flamboyant homosexual Pym Fortuyn sounded the alarm in Holland regarding the threat of fundamentalist Islam to his relaxed and liberal homeland, the Dutch establishment, that had previously condemned him as a bigot, has suddenly done an about face and adopted his agenda. It was Fortuyn who first noted in public what the Dutch had been noting in private for several years: that Holland’s Islamic population not only refused to assimilate into the host country but, indeed displayed a bitter intolerance for Dutch laissez-faire. He was so alarmed at the rising radical threat to Holland’s tradition of tolerance that he started a new political party, The List. The List demanded an end to Islamic immigration and demanded that the immigrant children be taught in Dutch. Within three months of its formation, The List had captured something like 20 per cent of Dutch constituencies. His opponents, Holland’s traditional politicians, were robbed of the traditional weapon of the thought police, the charge of racism. Fortuyn’s present and former amours came in a wide range of colors and he had chosen as his deputy an articulate black immigrant. Accusations of racism would have been met by the electorate with dismissive laughter. Had he lived, Fortuyn would have been prime minister of Holland today, but he was assassinated as he left a radio station after an interview two years ago. For an outpouring of a public sense of loss, his funeral was second only to Princess Diana’s, four years previously. On the surface, Dutch politics returned to normal, but the seed had been planted, and all those hundreds of thousands, if not millions, who had intended to vote for him did not forget his agenda. Now, after years of pandering to the multi culti ethic, the Dutch government has suddenly admitted that the immigrant Muslims top the “no” list: they have the highest incidence of unemployment, domestic violence, disability payments, truancy and crime. And, after three generations in Holland, at least 30 per cent of them return to their “home country” to marry and bring back a spouse. Dutch patience with fundamentalists on endless state benefits and allowances has snapped. Earlier this month, they hauled up the drawbridge and declared a four year moratorium on immigration, including so-called asylum seeking, to allow for assimilation. If the immigrant population still refuses to assimilate, I suspect the moratorium will be extended indefinitely. At the same time, they are repatriating over 26,000 “asylum seekers” whose claims for asylum were rejected years ago but who failed to leave the country. These are now demanding their “human rights” to continue to be supported on the generous Dutch welfare system, in Holland. Notoriously, south of Holland, the French government has just let it be known that their patience with the zealotry, arrogance and imperialistic streak demonstrated by its own large unassimilated Muslim population has just run out. In a jaw dropping statement, Chirac said that the wearing of the hijab by schoolgirls was “an aggressive act against the host nation”. And he is correct. It is not the wardrobe choice of little girls, but of their fathers and brothers who impose it on them because they don’t want men and boys “looking at” their females. France has come to the end of its tether with the tournantes – gang rapes as punishment for girls – both Muslim and indigenous – who dare to venture out of their homes in the projects without wearing a Muslim hijab. In many of the projects and nearby schools, Muslims constitute 50% or more of the population. At the end of 2002, the movie The Squaw on this subject shocked not just French theater goers, but Jacques Chirac and French education minister Jack Lang. That was the genesis of the long and winding road to the headscarf ban. The film, although intended to highlight a grave and unacknowledged social problem, at the same time struck a killer blow to the governing elite’s multicultural dreams of European countries and immigrants from their former colonies living in happy accord. Both France and Holland had now recognized that the immigrants were not the eager middle classes who come to the United States for their educations, or to settle. These are groups with an imperialistic, intolerant, colonizing mentality of their own. While the liberal press and political multicultural proselytizers were still expressing shock at the Dutch and the French, who had decided at last to abandon constant appeasement and take control of Islamic zealotry and aggression in their countrie
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On Watch    RE:WAKE UP CALL FOR the Europeans   2/29/2004 11:19:56 PM
>swhitebull - I hope it's not too late ME TOO! Thanks for the Euro-summary. The Ozzies are also growing weary of Rape-Gangs and other cultural baggage that the Islamo-fascists have brought along them. Unfortunately for US we've been drugged by this PC business by the Liberal Media for so long, we wouldn't recognize a threat to our way of life if it knocked down a 1/2 dozen buildings & a cornfield! Best Regards, OW.
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sentinel28a    RE:WAKE UP CALL FOR the Europeans   3/1/2004 2:17:24 AM
Sounds like I owe Couac Attack an apology on the headscarf thing.
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Roman    RE:WAKE UP CALL FOR the Europeans   3/1/2004 3:45:25 AM
Better late then never, but I fear it is too late. Many of these fundamentalists already have gained citizenship and cannot be deported. That means they will continue to spread their hatred and disdain for the Western Civilization that is hosting them. We should never have let them in in the first place. Oh well, at least the governments are finally trying to do something about it - until now they ignored or even supported the problem under the guise of political correctness.
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Thomas    RE:WAKE UP CALL FOR the Europeans Switebull   3/12/2004 2:22:44 AM
Thank You the nice words on Denmark: My favourite Snoopy quotation (from the Peanuts) is: Being sensitive doesn't mean you have to stupid. Actually Peter Skaarup is recognised as being right of center in Denmark. More significantly is the attitude of governing parties - and the lack of reaction from the opposition. Dispite the tolerant words - very stringent legislation has been put in place over the last decade - and it is being inforced. In fact if an american of impeccable record married a dane, he/she would have a hard time obtaining permission to live in the country. I wonder when we will be hit, maybe our intelligence services are doing a better job than most give them credit for. To give the example of one of the imam: Years ago it was debated publicly why he was in the country. The secretary of justice said in a TV-programme: We can't extradite him to Egypt, as he faces the death penalty - so we are stuck with him. But we keep an eye on him - and have done so for quite some time. That was 6-7 years ago.
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Thomas    RE:WAKE UP CALL FOR the Europeans   3/12/2004 3:40:23 AM
I should add: Naturalised immigrants can lose their citizenship i Denmark, if this was obtained under false pretenses!
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Roman    RE:WAKE UP CALL FOR the Europeans   3/12/2004 11:09:25 AM
"I should add: Naturalised immigrants can lose their citizenship i Denmark, if this was obtained under false pretenses" This is perhaps the best news for the future of Europe that I have heard in years! Go Denmark! Is it the same in other Western European countries? We have not had too much immigration into Slovakia yet, but we have had some and it is bound to increase after we enter then EU this May. In fact, this may surprise many, but Slovakia receives more immigrants than the number of people who leave Slovakia annually and that is the only reason our population stays stable - otherwise it would be shrinking due to extremely low birthrates. I hope our government will learn from the previous mistakes of its Western counterparts and put an end to immigration from countries that are not from the Western civilization (especially Muslim immigration) before it begins on a mass scale.
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TriggaFingaz    Quote from an Israeli paper's reaction to 3/11   3/13/2004 7:45:22 AM
In the Times (UK) which has reprinted quotes from various paper's reactions to Spain's 3/11, I saw a particularly apt line from Israel's Yedloth Ahronouth': 'WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD'
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Green Dragon    RE:WAKE UP CALL FOR the Europeans Switebull   3/13/2004 11:57:33 AM
In fact if an american of impeccable record married a dane, he/she would have a hard time obtaining permission to live in the country. What if it's an Australian engaged/married to the Crown Prince?
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Thomas2    RE:WAKE UP CALL FOR the Europeans Green Dragon    3/13/2004 2:17:42 PM
That is per definition an act of parliament. Engagements and marriages in the Royal Family has to be approved by government and parliament.
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Thomas2    RE:WAKE UP CALL FOR the Europeans Switebull   3/13/2004 2:21:10 PM
I'm preparing a post about the dicision process in Denmark. Switebull: My wife says You are very well formulated - and that is a praise VERY HARD to come by - she might not agree with You, but ... (She is has a master degree in English, and is VERY critical..) For all others: THIS IS A QUALITY FORUM.
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