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Subject: Don't Worry, Be Happy - we ONLY Kill Non-Muslims.
swhitebull    6/8/2004 1:37:02 PM
Eye-Witness accounts of the recent Saudi Khobar attacks: Is this anyway to run a jihad ? - "What kind of a jihad is this?" Comment after no Americans were killed in the attack on the Saudi police station. From Daniel Pipes : http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=13680 "Don't Worry, We Don't Kill Muslims" By Daniel Pipes FrontPageMagazine.com | June 8, 2004 After an Islamist rampage in the Saudi town of Khobar on May 29-30 that ended in the death of twenty-two persons, survivors of that atrocity have recounted how the terrorists went to great lengths to ensure that they would kill only non-Muslims. Their actions raise a delicate but urgent issue: how might non-Muslims best protect themselves if caught in such a situation? Even as the massacre was underway, the terrorists took pains to distinguish Muslims from non-Muslims. Here are some of the survivors’ testimonies: Hazem Al-Damen, Muslim, Jordanian: two terrorists knocked on his door and asked him and others hiding whether they were “Muslims or Christians.” On hearing “Muslims,” the assailants told them to stay in the room because their purpose was to rid the country of Americans and Europeans. Abu Hashem, 45, Muslim, an Iraqi-American engineer (also called “Mike” in some accounts): The terrorists demanded his residency card, which documented his religion (Muslim) and nationality (American). That combination provoked an argument between two terrorists. “He’s an American, we should shoot him,” said one. “We don’t shoot Muslims,” replied the other. The two went back and forth until the latter decided it: “Don’t be afraid. We won’t kill Muslims, even if you are an American.” With this decision, the terrorists turned polite, even apologizing for breaking into Abu Hashem’s home, searching it, and leaving blood stains on his carpet. Abdul Salam al-Hakawati, 38, Muslim, a Lebanese corporate financial officer: He and his family hid upstairs in their house after hearing gunfire. Downstairs, they heard the terrorists break in and rummage around before one apparently noticed framed Koranic verses on the wall and announced to the others, “This is a Muslim house.” When a heavily armed terrorist came upstairs, Al-Hakawati confirmed his identity by greeting the assailant with “Assalamu ‘Alaykum,” the Muslim greeting. Nizar Hajazeen, Christian, a Jordanian software businessmen: He hid with another Jordanian in a room but they opened the door when two armed young men banged violently on it. The terrorists asked the identity of the Jordanians, Arab or Westerners. “We’re Arab,” came the response. Each was then asked, “A Christian or a Muslim?” Both claimed to be Muslims and showed a Koran as proof. Taking care to kill only non-Muslims appears to be in response to widespread Saudi criticism of Islamist terrorism directed against Muslims; Saudis seem to agree that murder is a tool suitably directed only against non-Muslims, as two quotes suggest: Abdelaziz Raikhan, a maintenance man for the Saudi security forces, responded to the suicide bombing of a police headquarters in Riyadh that killed 5 people and wounded 148 on April 21, accusing the perpetrators of being “mentally ill. … There’s not one American in this entire area. Not one! What kind of jihad is this?” Mohsen al-Awaji, a Saudi lawyer, suggests that terrorists should be encouraged by the authorities to go to the many “occupied territories that require resistance,” such as in Afghanistan, Iraq, the Palestinian Authority, and Chechnya. “If someone decides to go, we wish him luck. He’s going to die anyway, so let him die there while achieving something, not die here and kill innocents with him.” Nor is this the first time Islamists have specifically targeted infidels. In Malaysia in 2000, for example, jihadists purposefully killed two non-Muslim hostages and spared two others, both Muslims. In Pakistan in 2002, a police chief noted killers “took a good fifteen minutes in segregating the Christians and making sure that each one of their targets gets the most horrific death.” The murderers separated Christians from Muslims by requiring each hostage to recite a verse from the Koran. Those who could not were shot. In all these cases, non-Muslims facing jihadists could have saved themselves by passing as Muslims. There are several ways they could have done this. They might have greeted their potential murderers with Assalamu ‘alaykum (which, ironically, means “peace be with you”). They might have recited in Arabic the Shahada, the Islamic statement of faith. Or they might have recited in Arabic the first sura (chapter) of the Koran, the essential prayer of Islam called the Fatiha (“Opening”). In the past, such knowledge would have saved lives. It could probably do so again in the future. Daniel Pipes () is director of the Middle East Forum and author of Miniatures (Transaction Publishers). Special feature, PLEASE NOTE: the m
 
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Elbandeedo    RE:Another Catch & Release ?   7/6/2004 1:21:38 PM
---"Terorist propaganda. They want to show themselves as righteous anti-crusade fighters "--- Yup. This way, instead of everyone seeing them as the murderous thieves, thugs, whackos they are - the muslim community will see them as "righteous jihadis". It will be reported far and wide now, "Look, we don't hurt our muslim brothers! See, this one even wore the uniform of the great satans 'devil dogs'! still we showed him mercy, for the uhma!" Meanwhile, they are still killing their own people by the hundreds every day and attempting to install a taliban-like rule over everyday Iraqis. E.
 
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jjfs2    RE:To be Muslim is not always enough against fundementalists.    7/13/2004 12:55:19 PM
"Showing a Saudi as a typical Muslim is something like showing SS soldiers as typical Christians. " Is that right? If those Saudis are merely a modern day perversion of an ancient, peaceful religion, why were they following in the footsteps of the first muslims? Afterall, the first jihad began with Mohammed.
 
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American Kafir    RE:To be Muslim is not always enough against fundementalists.    7/13/2004 7:21:39 PM
"Showing a Saudi as a typical Muslim is something like showing SS soldiers as typical Christians. " >>Is that right? If those Saudis are merely a modern day perversion of an ancient, peaceful religion, why were they following in the footsteps of the first muslims? Afterall, the first jihad began with Mohammed<< That is true. However, I'm not sure we can say that they are following in the footsteps of the first Muslims. They've only taken people hostage and beheaded a few of them. To bring themselves into alignment with the first Muslims from Muhammad's time, they need to also sell some of their captives into slavery and gang rape the children of their targets.
 
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ilpars    Jihad is a call not a Crusade.   7/14/2004 4:54:38 AM
Jihad is not something bad by itself. And it is surely not a Crusade. Jihad is simply a call to muslims to fight against a common enemy. It is not an obligation. It is bad or good according to why the call has been made. It is evil when it is called to destroy a nation like the jihads against Israel. It is good when it is called to defeat an invader. Like Ottoman Jihads against colonial powers.
 
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