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Subject: why can't more nations help?
gcw1995    7/8/2005 7:21:39 AM
By now, all civilized nations in the world should put all that they can to eliminate terrorism. Nations like France , Germany, Russia,and China. Imagine if everyone hammered the terrorists. I believe it would virtually get rid of these extremists. Terrorize the terrorists.
 
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paul1970    RE:why can't more nations help? pseud...   7/26/2005 12:44:09 PM
try ira and noraid in google. but just as a taster... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1563119.stm now the UK has been telling the US about the IRA and noraid for tyears but for some reason no action was taken. if you didn't know about it then fine but the US administrations have known and have not stopped even the blatent IRA fundraising until post sept 11.
 
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Pseudonym    RE:why can't more nations help? pseud...   7/26/2005 9:01:54 PM
Where is the smoking gun, that is all conjecture.
 
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Pseudonym    RE:why can't more nations help?   7/26/2005 9:06:03 PM
more specifically. Point out an instance of terror which had money traced back to an organization in the USA, then show me where the US Goverment denied to take action over what would clearly be Terrorist supporters. Or is it that you can make a wide sweeping statement of the USA funding terrorists, but do not have the exact details. We cannot shut them down without proof. Where's the beef?
 
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Pseudonym    RE:why can't more nations help?   7/26/2005 10:18:38 PM
Then again we now have the Patriot Act and other Terrorist related Laws that might now allow us to shutdown organizations on circumstantial evidence.
 
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paul1970    RE:why can't more nations help?   7/27/2005 5:16:56 AM
I said you had shut it down after sept 11. the British goverment and Irish governments were telling the US governement that NORAID money was used to support terrorism... you ask for a smoking gun.... as you must realise, official info into terrorists is classed as restricted and above so there is not likely to be a "smoking gun" out on the web unless leaked... but it wqas common knowledge in the UK as it was on the news and in programs investigating the IRA... guess what... NORAID never sued for slander and libel.... why do you think a lot of UK forces people boycotted MacDonalds over the issue. but take it as read that everybody who needed to know, knew that NORAID money bought guns and bombs... lets face it, any money going to the IRA is funding terrorism...
 
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Pseudonym    RE:why can't more nations help?   7/27/2005 4:27:00 PM
"I said you had shut it down after sept 11. the British goverment and Irish governments were telling the US governement that NORAID money was used to support terrorism... you ask for a smoking gun.... as you must realise, official info into terrorists is classed as restricted and above so there is not likely to be a "smoking gun" out on the web unless leaked... but it wqas common knowledge in the UK as it was on the news and in programs investigating the IRA... guess what... NORAID never sued for slander and libel.... why do you think a lot of UK forces people boycotted MacDonalds over the issue. but take it as read that everybody who needed to know, knew that NORAID money bought guns and bombs... lets face it, any money going to the IRA is funding terrorism..." Let's face it, without proof, in this Free Country, our Goverment does not have the right to stop those funds without proof. If we had been presented with proof and ignored it, don't you think there would be something in the papers. I mean there is classified intel leaked to the media daily. Surely sooner or later something would have shown up. But alas it did not. Innocent until proven guilty over here. WHERE'S THE BEEF? I keep posting references, WHERE ARE YOURS? Oh, that's right, you have none, you just figured you would America bash with nothing but opinions and conjecture to back your arguments. No that's not America bashing, surely not. I got a bridge in Brooklyn for sale, FYI.
 
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paul1970    RE:why can't more nations help?   7/28/2005 5:00:37 AM
proof from one government to another is not supposed to hit the internet... and so I cannot give you any links on the net. if you think that all the BBC and other media reports are not good enought then tough. but be assured that the British government provided proof to the American government. how come they shut it down after sept 11????? do you think proof suddenly appeared???? how come you want proof for this???? you didn't want proof for any of the reasons given for the invasion of Iraq???? you wnr off intell provided by the British government then.... you are mister pick and mix...
 
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paul1970    RE:why can't more nations help?   7/29/2005 11:46:55 AM
the nearest to proof on the net will be that New York prosecuted some NORAID people for gunrunning to the IRA. I guess since they went to the bother of prosecuting them that they thought that there must have been proof enough... a jury decided not but then again Michael Jackson did not abuse kids either......
 
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PlatypusMaximus    RE:why can't more nations help?   7/31/2005 9:40:06 PM
No big deal, Bush41 and Clinton are HUGE financial supporters of terrorism. Told ya so!....I think most people here told ya so. http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1703452005
 
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Pseudonym    RE:why can't more nations help?   7/31/2005 10:38:23 PM
"proof from one government to another is not supposed to hit the internet... and so I cannot give you any links on the net. if you think that all the BBC and other media reports are not good enought then tough. but be assured that the British government provided proof to the American government." To prosecute NORAID we need the proof to give to prosecutors and use in a trial. It is that simple. No proof, no downfall of NORAID. "how come they shut it down after sept 11????? do you think proof suddenly appeared????" Ever hear of the Patriot Act? Laws changed, in direct response to 9/11. Nice of you to ignore this the FIRST TIME I POSTED IT. "how come you want proof for this???? you didn't want proof for any of the reasons given for the invasion of Iraq???? you wnr off intell provided by the British government then.... you are mister pick and mix..." Were we taking Iraq to court, we would have needed the proof. Thankfully, Saddam had broken so many agreements with the UN, we really didn't need to say anything, under the terms of the UN deal, the UN shoulda taken him out years before. Alas, the UN is nothing but a paper tiger.
 
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