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Subject: Islamic warriors and innocent civilians?
trustedsourceofinfo    1/31/2006 12:53:26 AM
So the esteemed warrior from Allah's very own Islamic force Al Qaeda narrowly escaped death and gloats over the fact in a video aired! Here's what really caught my eye in his gibberish nonsense and obviously enuf reason to make headlines in their leading daily.. Check out the news article and of course you'll can hear these Islamic bastards on numerous websites! Innocent people killed in US strike: Zawahri Innocent people killed in US strike: Zawahri Innocent people killed in US strike: Zawahri Innocent people killed in US strike: Zawahri Innocent people killed in US strike: Zawahri Innocent people killed in US strike: Zawahri And once more... Innocent people killed in US strike: Zawahri This is what these bastards from Islamic republic make headlines to spur more jihad...... Since when did the Al Qaeda genteel ever bother abt civilians... Oh-they were Muslims...even if these low lives had no lives-they were muslims...SO all muslims are innocent civilians.... 911 victims are not innocent-2 year old hindu kids shot in the head were not innocent..The great professor from IIT,DElhi who imparted knowledge to Muslims and Hindus alike were not innocent.... When will you fukcing Islamic bastards stop...tell me?? And as long as you keep revering that perp called Mohammed this will continue..believe me..... wake up moderate Muslims.....wake up you idiots!! before the civilised world resorts to unthinkable action..... http://www.dawn.com/2006/01/31/top10.htm Let me quote "
 
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Mex101    RE:What are you waiting for?   3/3/2006 3:38:54 PM
The Bible has hundred of connections to the Torha, I have seen few connections to the Torah from the Koran. The Koran is lased with no direct statement of peace and friendship, Ten conmandments. it is up for interpetation to a point from witch it may be confuseing i.e. Trustedsourceofinfo's posted verses. Thier is too much room for a Society that has the Same mindset of Mid Evil Europe to interpit and thus is inperfect. And since God is perfect the Koran, as the laws of Islam, is not the word of God. Terror breeds from inperfection.
 
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trustedsourceofinfo    RE:What are you waiting for?   3/4/2006 12:08:43 AM
""for interpetation to a point from witch it may be confuseing i.e. Trustedsourceofinfo's posted verses."" --->The verses are as clear as they come.I dont think there's any ambiguity. When the Surah called AL Hajj(22) which shud have verses related to Hajj has verses mostly talking abt death and hell;something is very seriously wrong and ILLOGICAL.... I havent chosen to pick the usual verses flying all over the net...i.e. fight the disbelievers ..kill the disbelievers etc etc.. Instead Surah 22 was the SOT... I hope more and more moslems condemn such verses and and ask for the Koran to be revamped....without losing their lives:) I wudnt care abt the Bible or the Torah or even the Geeta cos people arent quoting them to kill! The Koran is one of the problems in this bigger Islamic Terror ambit!
 
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Pars    Islam and other religions. (Verses from Quran)   3/4/2006 7:52:52 PM
As trustedsourceofinfo brought this discussion before, I like to show how Quran referred to other religions. We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the prophets, from their Lord: We make no distinction between one and another among them, and to Allah do we bow our will (in Islam). (Surat Al Imran; 3:84). Those with Faith, those who are Jews, and the Christians and Sabaeans, all who have Faith in Allah and the Last Day and act rightly, will have their reward with their Lord. They will feel no fear and will know no sorrow. (Surat al-Baqara; 2:62). Only argue with the People of the Book in the kindest way - except in the case of those of them who do wrong - saying, 'We have Faith in what has been sent down to us and what was sent down to you. Our God and your God are one and we submit to Him. (Surat al-`Ankabut; 29:46).
 
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trustedsourceofinfo    RE:pars-excellent research...   3/5/2006 1:22:43 AM
These verses did get me researching even further.. but I'l take one verse at a time...This was we can discuss and debate it rather than going in different directions... I was guilty of taking the direction to women beating etc and i dont wanna do the same.. so I'll start with 3:84 And an answer was in the next verse... 003.085 YUSUFALI: If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost (All spiritual good). PICKTHAL: And whoso seeketh as religion other than the Surrender (to Allah) it will not be accepted from him, and he will be a loser in the Hereafter. SHAKIR: And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers.
 
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Mex101    RE:pars-excellent research...   3/6/2006 3:18:47 PM
Yes and if you don't believe in christ you will go to hell, Explane your point. Look for something more violent.
 
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Pars    RE:pars-excellent research...   3/8/2006 3:56:41 PM
003.85 literally means if you do not submit to the God (note: the same God whom Christians and Judaist also believe in), you will lose the God's favor. 003.84. Say: "We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the prophets, from their Lord: We make no distinction between one and another among them, and to Allah do we bow our will (in Islam)." 003.85. If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah., never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost (All spiritual good).
 
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Mex101    RE:pars-excellent research...   3/8/2006 4:03:18 PM
No one said that Islam doesn't try to serve God, but is Islam the Word of God and if not, Then does this mean that terror can easily use it and uses it to kill in its name. That is the question To be our not to Be?
 
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mustavaris    RE:pars-excellent research...   3/10/2006 2:06:45 AM
One question to answer: does quran tell you to kill non-believers like the bible does? What do the hadiths say? I am not SO familiar with quran...
 
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Mex101    RE:pars-excellent research...   3/10/2006 5:44:39 PM
>>>One question to answer: does quran tell you to kill non-believers like the bible does? What do the hadiths say? I am not SO familiar with quran... <<< Scine win does the Bible tell you to kill non-Belivers? Read back a few threads to find some verses about the Koran that may or may not indecate that you should kill none-believers. How do you spell that Bloody book any way? Koran,Q'ouran,quran? No offense to anyone.
 
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Pars    RE:pars-excellent research...   3/14/2006 6:44:35 AM
In Turkish we write it as Kuran but in English Quran is better because of pronanciation. No. Quran does not say kill non-believers. In fact killing civilians is a great sin in Islam. So according to Islam all terrorists will goto Hell to burn there indefinately.
 
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