Two questions: 1.What was wrong in the information provided? 2.Why dont you tell me the 'reality' of radical Islam cos our TV sets are descrambling analogue singnals in apparently different ways. And you're trying to convince me that Islam is a peaceful religion... WEll neither you or that punk Pars has done a good job-both of you'll have resorted to "your belief" not being imposed upon anyone else. When you debate back it up with proof and URL's... Dont come up with gibberish nonsense that Pars came up with.Remember,belief without reasoning,logic &rationale is called stupidity. All you so called moderate Muslims are guilty of that... Thats exactly what I started out with on this thread... Think abt it and reply rationally.

i want answer of my question first! please -tell me why don't they teach us to kill kafirs,kill your womans,take slaves... i learned islam as a peacefull religion so i can't tell you bad things about it +what did muslims(not terrorists) did to you??why do you want them to burn in hell(if exists) you burn in hell-does your religion tells you burn muslims in hell?! note:if you're living in USA-i heard that USA uses it's media very well to fool it's people.USA also uses it's media to attack other countries. ;)

Ha ha ha!!! Somebody here reads The Dawn :-P What next? Quoting from Pakistani Defense Journal???

Trustedsourceinfo- Samuel also said to Saul, "The lord sent me to anoint you king over his people, over Isreal. Now there for head the words of the lord "Thust says the lord of hosts, 'I will punish Amalek for what he did to Isreal, how he ambushed him on his way when he came from Egypt. Now go attack Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them. But KILL BOTH MAN AND WOMEN, INFANT AND NURSING CHILD, OX AND SHEEP, CAMEL AND DONKEY.'" FIRST BOOK OF SAMUEL, HOLYBIBLE Vengence, Killing Women and children, Killing "Innocent civilians" all ordered by the same God the Jews and Christians serve. >>"The Koran is definitely not the word of God.. The Koran is full of verses seeking vengenace and death!Whatever the circumstance be God would always preach"<< Read the Book of Deuteronomy, It has more examples What are one of the 10 pluges, oh! the death of all First Born. Read the story of Davied and Goliath. David, a small boy, threatend to Cut his head of and fead it to animals and desplay it. Imagen a 10 year old saying that to you! Shall I go on? Do your research First

Samuel also said to Saul, "The lord sent me to anoint you king over his people, over Isreal. Now there for head the words of the lord "Thust says the lord of hosts, 'I will punish Amalek for what he did to Isreal, how he ambushed him on his way when he came from Egypt. Now go attack Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them. But KILL BOTH MAN AND WOMEN, INFANT AND NURSING CHILD, OX AND SHEEP, CAMEL AND DONKEY.' That came from chapter 15 verse 1-3 1 Samuel old testament, Holy Bible.

Yes,I do read the Dawn off and On! You dont find the content reliable?! Or what is it abt the article that cracks you up!

"Do your research First" --->Abt what?! Read the subject of the thread and see what I am talkin abt.... If u find a problem with any of my statements -tell me what you'd like to clarify or debate accordingly... If I'm saying the Koran isnt the word of God;I'll prove it with concrete information from the Koran or the Haadiths Sunnah... The thread isnt talkin abt the Bible or Jesus-is it.... Create a new thread if u wish readers to debate on what you said... Regarding my research-goto the Pakistani board and you'll get an idea abt the research I did abt the Koran and the prophet... Debate me on this---do not fork threads irrelevant to the original one....

I will use Little words. You said that the Koran is not the word of God because of its violence. Every Holy book that I have seen and heard of have violence, vengence and so on. Therefor your statement about haveing a Violent Religion based on some passages of thier holy book is void. Based on your conclusion The bible and Torah is not the word of God. My last Thread was merly a example. You must have better reading skills cause I don't know how to make this any clearer than it already is.

We both agree that the Koran isnt the word of God!Albeit,you have concerns and reservations abt the Bible and Torah. I do not have concerns and reservations abt the Bible and the Torah because I dont see followers of this religion taking passages out of their holy books and attacking holy sites in SAudi Arabia for instance. The Bible and Torah are more symbolic wrt Good triumphing over evil. The Koran considers Muslims(believers) good versus disbelievers(evil in other words)... The difference is pronounced. Then of course the next issue is with the man who had the revelation from God.i.e The Prophet.Clearly he wasnt a man of any principles and reverance to such a man as well as interpreting hiswords(The Koran) is only cauising trouble around the world... I can see the trouble caused by Islamic radicals-hopefully you're seein it too... I gave an example of Saudi Arabia and its clear cut discrimination against non Muslims...RSA practices the purest form of Sharia. To me its clear that you're defending Islam by attacking CHristianity and Judaism... And I explicitly mentioned that this thread wasnt abt that!

prove me that the god exists and then prove that bible is his words