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Subject: Islamic warriors and innocent civilians?
trustedsourceofinfo    1/31/2006 12:53:26 AM
So the esteemed warrior from Allah's very own Islamic force Al Qaeda narrowly escaped death and gloats over the fact in a video aired! Here's what really caught my eye in his gibberish nonsense and obviously enuf reason to make headlines in their leading daily.. Check out the news article and of course you'll can hear these Islamic bastards on numerous websites! Innocent people killed in US strike: Zawahri Innocent people killed in US strike: Zawahri Innocent people killed in US strike: Zawahri Innocent people killed in US strike: Zawahri Innocent people killed in US strike: Zawahri Innocent people killed in US strike: Zawahri And once more... Innocent people killed in US strike: Zawahri This is what these bastards from Islamic republic make headlines to spur more jihad...... Since when did the Al Qaeda genteel ever bother abt civilians... Oh-they were Muslims...even if these low lives had no lives-they were muslims...SO all muslims are innocent civilians.... 911 victims are not innocent-2 year old hindu kids shot in the head were not innocent..The great professor from IIT,DElhi who imparted knowledge to Muslims and Hindus alike were not innocent.... When will you fukcing Islamic bastards stop...tell me?? And as long as you keep revering that perp called Mohammed this will continue..believe me..... wake up moderate Muslims.....wake up you idiots!! before the civilised world resorts to unthinkable action..... http://www.dawn.com/2006/01/31/top10.htm Let me quote "
 
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Mex101    RE:Mex000   2/10/2006 9:41:26 PM
"To me its clear that you're defending Islam by attacking CHristianity and Judaism..." I am sorry if thats the way I sounded. I was merly stating somthing in the defense of Islam its self by refering to religions that WE both respect. I am a devout fallower of christianity and hold nothing what so ever agiasnt the Jewish faith. I was playing "Devil's Advocate" It was not my intention to change the topic and I see the flaws in Islam, Its prone to missuse. Islam+Arabic/Persian culture does not amke a good mix. That is my opinion on this subject and that's why I sued a passage from the Bible. I admet that I could be a better christian, but don't we all. I ment no offense to anyone espicialy God.
 
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Mex101    RE:trustedsource   2/10/2006 9:44:17 PM
"prove me that the god exists" You should know better. "and then prove that bible is his words" Prove to me that the Koran or the Torah are God's words, once agian, You should know better. Ever hear about Abraham? If you are Islamic than you should know him. so do Jews and christians. Thus this is more of a of topic debate that must start elsewhere.
 
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Pars    RE:trustedsourceinfo; Believing   2/11/2006 11:56:06 PM
The fact is trustedsourceinfo simply do not know the meaning of "believing". You can not prove if the God exists or not. You can believe it or not. You can not prove if any book is the God's word or not. You can simply believe it or not. Something you can prove simply do not need the act of believing. Or by following the other route; you can only believe in things that you can not prove if it is true or not.
 
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trustedsourceofinfo    RE:trustedsourceinfo; Believing   2/14/2006 12:46:18 AM
Believing?? Remember the other thread we debated Pars-belief without reasoning and logic is irrational.Period.No ifs and buts. Islam unfortunately does need nurture the basic desire to question and rationalise. Mex-this is exactly why you have this world infested with Islamic terrorists. I am not here to discuss whether God exists or not. My problem lies with a billion people revering a man who was unscruplous to the hilt.The word of God was according to this revered man. Can someone tell me what price a man has to pay for leaving Islam as his faith? Quote me real examples(with proof)..... If you cant ask me and I will furnish proof... Then I will add data from the Koran too...
 
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Pars    RE:trustedsourceinfo; Believing   2/14/2006 3:58:10 AM
1. Come on. If we all believe only the things that we are sure about than all of us have to be Atheists. And that will be boring. Besides everybody have a need to believe in something that he do not understand. I do not know you, but most people do not really understand divine matters. 2. Islam is very similar to Christianity and Judaism. If 1 is irrational, the other 2 are also. 3. Nobody is discussing if the God exists. I just say it can not be proven if the God exists or not. 4. Price of leaving Islam is nothing for a Turk. We are secular. And in our society it is accepted that one's religion is his/her own matter. Noone can interfere. Just recently a Turkish model have married a Greek gentlemen and changed her religion to Orthodox Christianity. 5. I see that you are an expert in Islam. Can I ask you how you have became an scholar on the subject?
 
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Mex101    RE:trustedsourceinfo; Believing   2/14/2006 3:25:50 PM
Please show my some Koran quots that support your opinnion/point. This is Middle school knowlidge, Islam is a religion from witch one converts to freely and leaves freely. If certain Islumic fallowers want to add on that is not the Religion's fault, its those fallowers that wish for extras, Islamic Radicals are a good example of those Fallowers. "Mex-this is exactly why you have this world infested with Islamic terrorists." What do you mean? "My problem lies with a billion people revering a man who was unscruplous to the hilt.The word of God was according to this revered man." Do you mean Mohhamed, Abraham, Jesus, Buddagh, Moses, or any other Prohpet/Apostle/or any other Religious Leader? I Belive that Abraham, Moses, and Jesus gave the most accuret word of God,for the Record. "Can someone tell me what price a man has to pay for leaving Islam as his faith?" According to thier beliefs, Hell(as in the after life not on Earth). "If you cant ask me and I will furnish proof..." My English may not be advanced enough to read what ever you wrote. In other words, It didn't make sense. "Then I will add data from the Koran too..." Please do.
 
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Azmodius    RE:Islamic warriors and innocent civilians?   2/14/2006 5:11:13 PM
trusted is right. islam is all screwed up. the Koran doesnt make sense with itself, let alone to educated people willing to take the time to look into it. Mohammed was a slaver and a pirate who married a 6yr old girl and "consumated" this marriage when she was only 9. This alone should tell you about his character. Its funny to watch people come back with quotes from the bible in answer to Trusted's posts regarding islam as if biblical quotes A. have anything to do with the topic and B. Justify the horror of islam. Im not a believer in any god but the guy who put this website together did a good job. he basically lets islam speak for itself. prophetofdoom.net
 
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Mex101    RE:Islamic warriors and innocent civilians?   2/14/2006 7:58:47 PM
"To me its clear that you're defending Islam by attacking CHristianity and Judaism..." I am sorry if thats the way I sounded. I was merly stating somthing in the defense of Islam its self by refering to religions that WE both respect. I am a devout fallower of christianity and hold nothing what so ever agiasnt the Jewish faith. I was playing "Devil's Advocate" It was not my intention to change the topic and I see the flaws in Islam, Its prone to missuse. Islam+Arabic/Persian culture does not make a good mix. That is my opinion on this subject and that's why I sued a passage from the Bible. I admet that I could be a better christian, but don't we all. I ment no offense to anyone espicialy God. Does anyone pay atention to what they read? "Mohammed was a slaver and a pirate who married a 6yr old girl and "consumated" this marriage when she was only 9. This alone should tell you" How many wemon did David have? and others in the bible? Why do you judge a Religion based on the actions of the Persians or Arabs? Why haven't their been any Muslim riots in the US? Thier are plenty of Muslims in the US. I'll tell you why, because insulting a enamy to your government puts you on the crazey Dictator's "good" side. now back to the Original topic Why do the Terrorist kill innocets? Who hasn't? The answer is simple, the guy who brainwashed them is CRAZY! LOCO! FEUX! 70 or 29 virgins in Hevean? Not even Jesus got that! According to what I learned in school, AFTER DEATH THE BODY IS GONE, it decays. and From what asking Theachers and Fellow Muslim students, When one is in Hevean one does not crave human needs like a number of virgins. My conclusion based on the facts is that they are crazy poeple who make the None crazies bad They kill innocents because they just don't care.
 
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Mex101    RE:Self Correction   2/14/2006 8:01:49 PM
My conclusion based on the facts is that they are crazy poeple who make the None crazies bad ...they make none crayzies look bad...
 
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trustedsourceofinfo    RE:Pars   2/15/2006 1:14:48 AM
"1. Come on. If we all believe only the things that we are sure about than all of us have to be Atheists. And that will be boring." -->You're missing the big picture again and again dude!I'd rather let religion be 'boring' than people kill in the name of Allah.Or 911 and the rest of it makes things interesting evening conversations in Turkey. At least the civilisation I come from!! "2. Islam is very similar to Christianity and Judaism. If 1 is irrational, the other 2 are also." -->And I thot you claimed to be a rational guy.They're not similar.If they were similar there wudnt be such a clash of thoughts and ideologies.Stop using this to defend ISlam. Mohammed and Jesus were two entirely different men.The Bible and Koran are entirely different books written abt "different" ways of lives for Christians and Muslims to lead. Islam doesnt promote tolerance!Islam doesnt promote free thinking and rationality.Its there for you and me to see. "" 3. Nobody is discussing if the God exists. I just say it can not be proven if the God exists or not."" -->That was never the topic of discussion.The thread was Islamic warriors and innocent civilians which was forked from "Terrorism". Islamic Terror is the biggest threat to manking-Either you disagree or you agree. We're here to debate and discuss that!! "4. Price of leaving Islam is nothing for a Turk" -->Nice to hear that.Do yo have some links from the wedding and some blogs to point out.I'll sure evaluate it critically! "5. I see that you are an expert in Islam. Can I ask you how you have became an scholar on the subject? " -->Never claimed to be an expert on Islam.I see the ground realities on TV and read stuff from the web and it was clear and vivid to me that Islamic terrorism has assumed dangerous proportions. I have seen Islamic terror close to me too... This prompted me to read the Koran and the haadith Sunnahs....And I now fully understand why Islam is so intolerant and the Koran incites terror. The reverance for a thug like Mohammed is truly the icing on the cake as far as Islam is concerned. I truly hope religion/beliefs are 'boring' so that this world is a better place. BTW Pars-you still havent answered my question abt Salman Rushdie..Was he right or wrong.And dont tell me that no one has a right to issue a fatwa..I understand that..Answer the Question...
 
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