Why would you think that? I am merly Debateing with you. There are no personal feelings what so ever, and I find this a little entertaining. DarthAmerica, and I don't mean to drag him in to this, Believes that if Innocent civilians are killed, its OK in war if it gets the military objective a nice big COMPLETED sign on it. However he does not belive in sensless killing of innocents. I think that I was Influenced in a way by the Debate that we had, It was a post about the US going to war with Iran, I don't remember if you where involved. Maybe Middle eastern society shares that opinion. I probably has nothing to do with Rilgion. If you're gonna debate like them-then stay away and dont waste my time... State any unlogical post i make, at the end I would be grategull, and I do meean it. "You guys keep spelling quoting as quating!" I realy don't care about correct spelling on the internet, though I try not to miss spell. The post I debated with Darth is Can the US invade Iran? Its ether in the US Board or armed forces of the World Board. You'll find that things might of heated up and I made some mistakes. I did make a post telling darth that i understood his point of view on the subject, I still need to fully under stand yours, so lets keep talking.

Can you please show me any verse in the Koran which explicitly mentions that any person(of any belief) will goto Heaven for being a good human?

gentlemen, Look carefully at verse 6-Yusufali and Pickthal clealy say that people who reject the FAITH...let me re-iterate...reject the FAITH..as in Islamic faith... There isnt ambiguity in that... and then Verse 7....people who are disbelievers,as in people who reject the faith will goto hell... How on earth do you'll ever construe that FAITH speaks generally for all people...i.e Muslims and Non Muslims...The target audience for the Koran is obviously the Muslims..or it isnt.... Mex-Please present some URL's....your word isnt going to be enough!

"Can you please show me any verse in the Koran which explicitly mentions that any person(of any belief) will goto Heaven for being a good human? " It will take time for me (I do not have right now) but I know that some verses say things that leads to that kind of thinking. Many Islamic scholars wrote about the subject. Also I know that this is one of the cornerstone beliefs of the Bektasi and Mevlevi Islamic sects of Anatolian Turks. Several years ago, I have read 1 article from an Islamic scholar who wrote that Gandhi should have gone to heaven because he worked for the benefit of all Indians without considering religion.

"Can you please show me any verse in the Koran which explicitly mentions that any person(of any belief) will goto Heaven for being a good human? " It will take time for me (I do not have right now) but I know that some verses say things that leads to that kind of thinking. Many Islamic scholars wrote about the subject. Also I know that this is one of the cornerstone beliefs of the Bektasi and Mevlevi Islamic sects of Anatolian Turks. Several years ago, I have read 1 article from an Islamic scholar who wrote that Gandhi probably have gone to heaven because he worked for the benefit of all Indians without considering religion. Although he addad that only the God can know for sure who will be in Heaven.

There is no seperate Islamic faith in Quran. When Quran said faith it simply referred to faith to the God. Besides target audience of Quran is everybody not only muslims. Some muslims understand "believers" as only as Muslims. Others understand "believers" as everybody who believes in the God. For example most of the Turks are in the second category. This is why most Turks show equal respect to Hahams and Bishops as they showed to the Imams. (I must admit which is not higher than any other decent job. As these are looked as a job in Turkish society) For example the bishop that was assasinated at Trabzon was greatly admired by the local people because of his charities to everyone in need. That was probably why the radicals killed him.

I'm trying to find an online bible but the best I can do is tell you to get one at the Library. I guessed that you had a Bible or at least a Torah. Once I find an online Bible I'll post it. "Look carefully at verse 6-Yusufali and Pickthal clealy say that people who reject the FAITH...let me re-iterate...reject the FAITH..as in Islamic faith..." I don't share that same opinion as pars does. In that subject I agree.

http://www.nccbuscc.org/nab/bible/ This site has a deferent version of the Bible than I do. http://www.hti.umich.edu/k/kjv/browse.html This site has the same version I use. It took me a while but here are your URL's Have Fun

Pars-How abt I prove to you from the Koran that these references are to the Islamic faith and not not entire mankind? I will produce Surah's/verses staright from the Koran... And I'm hoping that you'll change your perception abt the Koran once I've proved the same without doubt to you..How abt that...ready to accept the challenge...

Yes, sure.