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Subject: Islamic warriors and innocent civilians?
trustedsourceofinfo    1/31/2006 12:53:26 AM
So the esteemed warrior from Allah's very own Islamic force Al Qaeda narrowly escaped death and gloats over the fact in a video aired! Here's what really caught my eye in his gibberish nonsense and obviously enuf reason to make headlines in their leading daily.. Check out the news article and of course you'll can hear these Islamic bastards on numerous websites! Innocent people killed in US strike: Zawahri Innocent people killed in US strike: Zawahri Innocent people killed in US strike: Zawahri Innocent people killed in US strike: Zawahri Innocent people killed in US strike: Zawahri Innocent people killed in US strike: Zawahri And once more... Innocent people killed in US strike: Zawahri This is what these bastards from Islamic republic make headlines to spur more jihad...... Since when did the Al Qaeda genteel ever bother abt civilians... Oh-they were Muslims...even if these low lives had no lives-they were muslims...SO all muslims are innocent civilians.... 911 victims are not innocent-2 year old hindu kids shot in the head were not innocent..The great professor from IIT,DElhi who imparted knowledge to Muslims and Hindus alike were not innocent.... When will you fukcing Islamic bastards stop...tell me?? And as long as you keep revering that perp called Mohammed this will continue..believe me..... wake up moderate Muslims.....wake up you idiots!! before the civilised world resorts to unthinkable action..... Let me quote "
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trustedsourceofinfo    RE:The Pilgrimage   2/25/2006 1:09:30 AM
""You are asking the question to the wrong person. I am not a scholar of the subject."" -->I was waiting for this to happen. Why do you think every Pakistani has fled from this forum.WE Indians use the Koran to beat them in their own Islamic game.. Sorry Pars-you flipped sooner than I expected. You claimed that Koran was written for the masses..for every living being! Dude-as a Muslim you've put your hands up!Those translated verses can be understood by one and all...You cant claim Koran is written for the people if and only if Scholars can interpret... Nevertheless-in the entire Surah there are about 8-0 verses that have "some" mention of Al Hajj... But...the entire SUrah is full of the same BS... Please admit it that "describing helll" HAS NUTHING to do with a 'holy' pilgrimage....actually there's nuthin holy to talk abt in this Surah.... And of course the most ridiculous thing is that there is NO mention abt performing HAjj in the SURAH called Al Hajj....SWeet,isnt it..... Anyways-hopefully if u open up your mind a little more I'll show u more and more BS from this terror guide called Koran.... One Surah after Another.... Having fun...arent we....
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trustedsourceofinfo    RE:How are women treated in Islam   2/25/2006 2:52:48 AM
I remember sometime back Kane and Pars comin up with man=woman according to Islam... is this something that your professor in school brianwashes you into believing cos thats definitely not the story of your homes...Thats definitely not the case for any family in Islam... But I'll be more than happy to accept that I'm wrong of either of u can show me some verses from the Koran talking abt equlaity... If you'll have trouble reading the translated versions please just provide the Surah and the verse... But please show me some verse in defence of these statements made by both of you.....
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trustedsourceofinfo    MAn=woman   2/25/2006 2:59:26 AM
Pars...found your post... let me quote... 3. In Quran, woman = man. In Arabian culture they are not. Many confuse these facts. I mean you are not the only one. ===>Please show me the verses in Quran!
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trustedsourceofinfo    Vintage Quran....Beat up the women   2/25/2006 3:09:35 AM
I found this from your Koran... Pars,Kane-any Muslim on this forum...would you like to comment... 004.034 YUSUFALI: Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all). PICKTHAL: Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted, Great. SHAKIR: Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.
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Pars    RE:Vintage Quran....Beat up the women   2/25/2006 5:12:13 AM
Yes, I do not like that part either. In Turkish culture, the one who raise his hand to a woman is a lowliest creature, a coward.
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Pars    RE:The Pilgrimage   2/25/2006 5:14:29 AM
I will read the Surah in Turkish before commenting further on this. Yusuf Ali's English is most tasking.
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kane    RE:The Pilgrimage   2/25/2006 8:36:10 AM
islam has some problems with women but this does not have to be like that in Turkey some man beat his woman but it has nothing to do with religion.It's because of love problems.This happens in every country here in Turkey Man=Woman you can't marry more than one woman-and it is logical personally i won't marry with someone until age of 35.Love's age is 3 years.After three years love is gone-then you become life friends which is not exciting;) marrying in early ages SUX In arabian culture women are in real trouble
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kane    RE:kk sorry    2/25/2006 8:36:35 AM
i didn't write for pilgrime
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Mex101    RE:Islamic warriors and innocent civilians?   2/25/2006 12:03:34 PM
What does the pilgrimage have to do with this? Have we changed topic from Koran inspires Terror to the Koran and Anti feminine ways? Beating Women happens everywhere. That is out of subject and this may be the wrong web site for this debate. We were talking about how or how not the Koran inspires Terror. Who really cares about the flaws of Islam? What I have been waiting for is a Verse that tells Muslims to go out and attack nonbelievers with actual violence and not preaching. To use the Name of God in Violence and were the 79, or what ever amount, Virgins are promised. I have not been shown any of this and there for I am not convinced that the Koran inspires terror. Its mainly Arabic Culture that is warrior like and holds the desire for Blood, as will as the Persians, Israelites, and any other Middle Eastern Culture.
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trustedsourceofinfo    RE:The Pilgrimage   2/25/2006 9:18:29 PM
""I will read the Surah in Turkish before commenting further on this. Yusuf Ali's English is most tasking."" -->Tell me abt it...I've been having a hard time going thru their English...Not that its wrong but traslated into some very tough 'kind' of English..Very poetic...
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